Re: What shell implementations to consider (Was: [1003.1(2008)/Issue 7 0000767]: Add built-in "local")

2017-05-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 05/29/17 01:56 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan Coopersmith wrote: We still ship a couple closed source shells in Solaris - the SVR4 Bourne Shell as /usr/sunos/bin/sh and a modified ksh88 as /usr/xpg4/bin/sh, but our primary day to day shells are the common open

Re: What shell implementations to consider (Was: [1003.1(2008)/Issue 7 0000767]: Add built-in "local")

2017-05-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 05/29/17 04:37 AM, Robert Elz wrote: There is no requirement that you, or I, or anyone else in particular, be able to build and run any particular shell. While that's nice if possible, a shell is still a shell even if its source code is not openly available at all (like any that are in

Re: What shell implementations to consider (Was: [1003.1(2008)/Issue 7 0000767]: Add built-in "local")

2017-05-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stephane CHAZELAS wrote: > 2017-05-24 17:21:33 +0200, Joerg Schilling: > > Do you have a pointer to the POSIX text that forbids a subshell in this > > case > > when stdin is redirected? > [...] > > I don't know if you'll find some text that *explicitly* forbids >

Re: What shell implementations to consider (Was: [1003.1(2008)/Issue 7 0000767]: Add built-in "local")

2017-05-29 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Mon, 29 May 2017 14:38:02 +0200 From:Joerg Schilling Message-ID: <592c162a.syoz+dozzpogtqep%joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> | The problem is that I have a FreeBSD system available for testing, | but not a NetBSD

Re: What shell implementations to consider (Was: [1003.1(2008)/Issue 7 0000767]: Add built-in "local")

2017-05-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
Robert Elz wrote: > Date:Mon, 29 May 2017 11:47:04 +0200 > From:Joerg Schilling > Message-ID: > <592bee18.kvZiYpLd6LS/Evf/%joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> > > | If the related shells would be available

Re: What shell implementations to consider (Was: [1003.1(2008)/Issue 7 0000767]: Add built-in "local")

2017-05-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
Robert Elz wrote: > To get away from the dick waving "my shell is bigger than yours" > discussions for a minute ... > > In note 3745 attached to http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=767 > Joerg Schilling proposes making a list of shells to use to help > guide what can be