Re: Is this the kind of "bug" you welcome reporting on one of your Standards (Shell Command Language)

2022-01-14 Thread Mark Galeck via austin-group-l at The Open Group
fect reports applied. > > I hope this helps. > regards > Andrew > > > On 13 Jan 2022, at 13:02, Mark Galeck via austin-group-l at The Open Group > > wrote: > > > > Yes thank you, this is very helpful. > > > > Right now, I point the customers to

Re: Is this the kind of "bug" you welcome reporting on one of your Standards (Shell Command Language)

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Galeck via austin-group-l at The Open Group
Group wrote: > > Mark Galeck wrote, on 13 Jan 2022: > > > > Thank you Nick. So here's the one I just found. > > > > In the section 2.2.3 Double-Quotes, it says about \ : > > > > "The shall retain its special meaning as an escape > > c

Re: Is this the kind of "bug" you welcome reporting on one of your Standards (Shell Command Language)

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Galeck via austin-group-l at The Open Group
austingroupbugs.net ... if it is (a), then the > maintainers of those shells are generally on this list too, and will take the > appropriate action. > -- > Nick > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 7:01 AM Mark Galeck via austin-group-l at The Open > Group wrote: >> &

Is this the kind of "bug" you welcome reporting on one of your Standards (Shell Command Language)

2022-01-12 Thread Mark Galeck via austin-group-l at The Open Group
Hello, a few years ago, I used to report a number of "bugs" on www.austingroupbugs.net , however, my reporting was not acted upon, which may be because I did not properly understand what you care about or not. So before I do that again, since I don't want to waste anybody's time, I want to ask

Re: when does PATH search stop?

2016-11-23 Thread Mark Galeck
>There is no precise definition of "acceptable" Yes currently there isn't , but it would be easy to make such a definition, simply, for various failure errno numbers (which are enumerated in the standard), say "acceptable", "not acceptable", or perhaps "unspecified".  

Re: when does PATH search stop?

2016-11-22 Thread Mark Galeck
Yes, thank you, alternative 3, I was wrong.  

when does PATH search stop?

2016-11-21 Thread Mark Galeck
Hello, the shell standard section on Command Search and Execution, says  command shall be searched for using the PATH environment variable as described in XBD Environment Variables  and that section says the value of PATH is split into a list and  "The list shall be searched from beginning to

What does the standard say about whether assignments are visible for subsequent expansions in a simple command without a command name?

2016-11-07 Thread Mark Galeck
Hello, the current shell standard says in Section 2.9.1: --- If no command name results, variable assignments shall affect the current execution environment. If the command name is not a special built-in utility or function, the variable assignments (...) shall not affect the

another query or, I have been outed as a robot

2016-10-11 Thread Mark Galeck
Hello humans, I had another question about the Shell Standard, but since nobody answered last two, I reckon that the proper thing to do is to log them into "defect tracker". I had previously been reluctant to do so, because if I am not sure something was a defect, why should I log it as such.

two things from "Token Recognition" section of the Shell Standard, don't seem to make sense - please comment

2016-10-07 Thread Mark Galeck
Hello, In the Shell Standard (current version 2016), section on Token Recognition, it says (...) shell shall break its input into tokens by applying the first applicable rule below to the next character in its input. and The token shall be from the current position in the input (...)

Re: how is '(' recognized by the shell standard as a token?

2016-09-05 Thread Mark Galeck
Robert Elz graciously pointed out that 2.9.4 implictly says that ( is in fact an operator, which solves my problem. Thank you to Robert! - Original Message - From: Mark Galeck <mark_gal...@pacbell.net> To: "austin-group-l@opengroup.org" <austin-group-l@opengrou

dash shell seems to be going both against the POSIX shell standard requirement and approved change to it

2016-09-05 Thread Mark Galeck
Hello, I thought the dash shell is strictly conforming to the POSIX shell standard. But it seems, I see a discrepancy. It probably means, I don't understand the standard. Please explain what is going on. The standard says in the section 2.2.3 on Double-Quotes and $ : "even number of

In the POSIX shell standard, why are redirections mixed in with variable assignments and positional parameters?

2016-08-12 Thread Mark Galeck
Hello, the formal POSIX shell grammar for yacc symbol "simple_command" accepts commands which can be loosely summarized as: three parts, each optional, in order: variable assignments and redirections mixed togethercommand namecommand arguments and  redirections mixed together It seems to me,