Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-06 Thread Stepan Kasal
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 11:39:47AM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: > Stepan Kasal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > * tests/tools.at (autom4te preselections): Use `find -newer'; > > remove one of the sleeps. > > Thanks; please install. Installed to Autoconf CVS, thank you. Stepan

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-06 Thread Paul Eggert
Stepan Kasal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * tests/tools.at (autom4te preselections): Use `find -newer'; > remove one of the sleeps. Thanks; please install.

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-06 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hello, On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:10:57PM +0100, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > * Paul Eggert wrote on Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:21:42PM CET: > > The goal here is to avoid a tradition of tests that sleep. Sleeping > > slows things down. speaking about avoiding unnecessary sleep: Earlier in this thread

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-05 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Paul Eggert wrote on Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:21:42PM CET: > > In the mean time, sleeping for 1 second should suffice. Thank you. I applied the patch below, assuming we'll hear about the significance of failures on bug-autoconf. > The goal here is to avoid a tradition of tests that sleep. Sle

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-05 Thread Paul Eggert
Eric Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Even Linux > supports FAT, although I doubt anyone is foolhardy enough to develop on > FAT when there are so many better filesystems to choose from. But you > need at least 'sleep 2' to guarantee distinct timestamps on FAT. I don't think this is really a

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-05 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Ralf Wildenhues on 12/4/2006 11:11 PM: > Quoting automake/configure.ac: > # The amount we should wait after modifying files depends on the platform. > # On Windows '95, '98 and ME, files modifications have 2-seconds > # granularity and can

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-04 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
> * Paul Eggert wrote on Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 01:40:59AM CET: > > Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > +: ${sleep='sleep 2'} # Command to force different time stamps > > > > Why doesn't 'sleep 1' suffice? That '2' has me worried. More information: http://lists.gnu.org/archi

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-04 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello Paul, * Paul Eggert wrote on Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 01:40:59AM CET: > Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > +: ${sleep='sleep 2'} # Command to force different time stamps > > Why doesn't 'sleep 1' suffice? That '2' has me worried. Quoting automake/Makefile.am:maintainer-c

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-04 Thread Paul Eggert
Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2006-12-04 Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * tests/tools.at (autom4te preselections): New test, to flag > entries missing from autom4te.cfg. > Report by David Byron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. This looks reasonable, but... > +: $

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-12-04 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Continuing: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/autoconf-patches/2006-09/msg00038.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/autoconf-patches/2006-10/msg00042.html * Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote on Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 04:21:50PM CEST: > >>> "RW" == Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > RW> * te

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-10-14 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
>>> "RW" == Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] RW> * tests/trace.test: New test for autom4te preselections. RW> * tests/Makefile.am: Update. I'd rather not have this test in Automake. If we add a new trace to Automake today, fixing the test so it doesn't fail with old CVS Autoc

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-09-11 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hello Ralf, On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 01:22:31PM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > * Stepan Kasal wrote on Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 12:26:34PM CEST: > [sleep before the first aclocal call] thank you that you kindly repeated the explanation for me. I apologize that I was not able to see it in your previou

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-09-11 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello Stepan, * Stepan Kasal wrote on Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 12:26:34PM CEST: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:50:48PM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > > Closer. We need to sleep before the first aclocal, > > I do not understand why, but I'm afraid it has something to do with > your explanation how

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-09-11 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hello Ralf, On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:50:48PM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > > +test -f $HOME/.autom4te.cfg && exit 77 > > [...], but better be safer than sorry: this test does > not need to be executed on many systems in order to be effective. you are right, of course; thanks for explanatio

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-09-08 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello Stepan, * Stepan Kasal wrote on Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 04:11:22PM CEST: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:16:06AM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > [...], with Stepan's proposed additional patch > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/autoconf-patches/2006-09/msg00023.html > > I can't get the test to

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-09-08 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hello, On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:16:06AM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > [...], with Stepan's proposed additional patch > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/autoconf-patches/2006-09/msg00023.html > I can't get the test to fail reliably any more: it only fails about half > the time, even if I throw

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-09-07 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Paul Eggert wrote on Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 07:52:11PM CEST: > Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Definitely there should be a test for the bug. How about the one below? > > Looks good to me; please install. Thanks. Thanks for the review. However, with Stepan's proposed additio

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-09-07 Thread Paul Eggert
Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Definitely there should be a test for the bug. How about the one below? Looks good to me; please install. Thanks.

Re: calling autoreconf and minimizing rebuilds

2006-09-07 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello Stepan, * Stepan Kasal wrote on Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 04:20:19PM CEST: > > So the fix is obvious: add the macro to the preselect list in > autom4te. I installed autoconf-20060907-presel.patch (attached) > to the Autoconf CVS. Congratulations on fixing a three-year-old bug! :-) > Well, if