RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread Tom Jordahl
What does -1 mean in the context of design discussion? Same thing? -- Tom -Original Message- From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation > Please interpret the -1 in

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread Sam Ruby
> Please interpret the -1 in the same way you interpret a +1 for agreement. > +1 are used with frequency, there is nothing bad about a -1 (at least the > way I understand it). Generally speaking, -1 in code discussions at Apache is to be interpreted as a solid veto. Generally, people are use "-

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread Tom Jordahl
TECTED] Subject: RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation Whoa! A -1 on moving the meta data out of the bean class!?!?! I hate to be nasty, but I'm moving closer and closer (not QUITE there, yet) to saying -1 on keeping it IN! It puts non-bean stuff on beans (bad bad bad). It locks out

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread Glen Daniels
Will attempt to respond to the rest of this later, but this comment stands out: >The use of a alternate meta models reduces the risk of Axis being >married to a particular model or implementation. I am not against >having default meta models, but the use of a particular > model in

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread R J Scheuerle Jr
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RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread Glen Daniels
-band solution. --Glen > -Original Message- > From: Russell Butek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation > > > Glen, > > I think we're talking about 2

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread R J Scheuerle Jr
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RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread Russell Butek
ed. Keeping the meta data out of the APIs would make their life less confusing, less misleading. Russell Butek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/12/2002 08:05:11 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread R J Scheuerle Jr
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RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread Glen Daniels
Hi Russell! > Yeah, the proliferation of files DOES worry me. Perhaps > whatever solution > we end up with should continue along the path you set? Right now the > meta-data ONLY exists if we have attributes, so whether it's inline or > outline, the meta data will only be generated when we nee

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-12 Thread Russell Butek
] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation Hi Russell! See the note I just sent to Greg. I do see the need for, and want to see, a good out-of-band solution for this, but that doesn't mean the in-b

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread Glen Daniels
rialization of a bean changes, or if the APIs in Axis change? --Glen > -Original Message- > From: Russell Butek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation > > &g

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread Glen Daniels
l files, .NET uses embedded metadata - both are good models, let's do both! Will you be able to make the chat tomorrow? I think it would be good if we could spend some time on this topic there. --Glen > -Original Message----- > From: Greg Truty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Se

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread Russell Butek
Tom Jordahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/11/2002 05:00:34 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation -1 on moving the meta data out of the bean class and in to

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread Greg Truty
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Re: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread Doug Davis
lease respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation There have been several recent changes to the Bean Class generation to support more advanced xml features...namely attributes. I applaud the new functionality, but we need to step

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread Glen Daniels
e- > From: Richard Sitze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation > > > +1 to stepping back and designing (ie. cease code-checking on current > direction) > > It&

RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread Tom Jordahl
CTED] Subject: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation There have been several recent changes to the Bean Class generation to support more advanced xml features...namely attributes. I applaud the new functionality, but we need to step back and consider a more flexible architectural direction.

Re: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread R J Scheuerle Jr
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Re: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread Richard Sitze
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RE: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread Glen Daniels
ouple these too, I would think. --Glen > -Original Message- > From: R J Scheuerle Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation > > > There have been several recent

Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation

2002-03-11 Thread R J Scheuerle Jr
There have been several recent changes to the Bean Class generation to support more advanced xml features...namely attributes. I applaud the new functionality, but we need to step back and consider a more flexible architectural direction. I would like to see all of the meta data information remo