Re: [Ayatana] VPN

2010-06-15 Thread Philipp Wendler
Hi, Am 14.06.2010 16:21, schrieb Shane Fagan: I see you guys are planning the design of the networking menu. My question is do you really need vpn in there? Is it something that we need to expose to every user? Barely any desktop (or netbook) user uses vpn at all they mainly use normal lan,

Re: [Ayatana] Is it time we killed minimize to tray ?

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 14:08 +0100, Luke Benstead wrote: Is there a reason why DockbarX is not suitable for this? I've attached a screenshot incase people dunno what I'm talking about :) That is what you would get if you removed the ... from the bar when they get resized. I never understood

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Scott Ritchie
On 06/14/2010 12:31 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Scott Ritchie wrote on 23/04/10 06:48: I like where you're going, but what do we do about interoperability? There's a hint in your post that we'll simply leave apps broken, stick up our middle fingers, and tempt developers with our

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Luke Benstead
On 14 June 2010 08:31, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Ritchie wrote on 23/04/10 06:48: I like where you're going, but what do we do about interoperability? There's a hint in your post that we'll simply leave apps

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Conscious User
A massive portion of Ubuntu users use Wine or Java apps to some degree. If we are trying to improve usability, how would relegating non-application-indicator-conforming apps to floating windows improve a user's experience compared to the current situation of having the (empty most of the

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Luke Benstead
On 15 June 2010 10:32, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: A massive portion of Ubuntu users use Wine or Java apps to some degree. If we are trying to improve usability, how would relegating non-application-indicator-conforming apps to floating windows improve a user's

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Conscious User
How about a middle-ground compromise? Not using a full blown window, but putting the Wine tray icons inside an indicator menu. Horrible mockup attached for illustration. I thought about that, but AFAIK you can't have right clicking

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Luke Benstead
On 15 June 2010 10:39, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: How about a middle-ground compromise? Not using a full blown window, but putting the Wine tray icons inside an indicator menu. Horrible mockup attached for illustration. I thought

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
Plus, with this mockup, you need an inidicator icon/menu for each class of application that might put things in the notification area? That's gross, on top of the just-not-working problem. Here's an idea: Just leave the notification icons in the panel. They should show up right next to the

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 15/06/10 10:35, Luke Benstead wrote: I thought about that, but AFAIK you can't have right clicking (perhaps also double clicking) inside an indicator menu. We could do a special-case for this. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/15 Jeremy Nickurak jer...@nickurak.ca Here's an idea: Just leave the notification icons in the panel. They should show up right next to the existing indicator icons. This could be done in the same indicator-applet or in a seperate notification-area applet, it doesn't really matter.

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Owens
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 10:42 +0100, Luke Benstead wrote: We are talking about an impossible-to-overcome-by-application-indicator-design-limitation. I presume system indicators went from objects to states so right clicking was thrown out. So Networking to State of Network and Messages to You Have

Re: [Ayatana] Is it time we killed minimize to tray ?

2010-06-15 Thread Jake Tolbert
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 14:08 +0100, Luke Benstead wrote: Is there a reason why DockbarX is not suitable for this? I've attached a screenshot incase people dunno what I'm talking about :) That is what you would get if

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-15 Thread Conscious User
Plus, with this mockup, you need an inidicator icon/menu for each class of application that might put things in the notification area? No. Just for the corner cases that cannot use libappindicator and never will, like Wine and Java. Are there any other besides those two? All other classes of

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010-06-15 Thread Dylan McCall
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: In application menus, the behavior is the same for left-clicking and right-clicking: both open the same menu. For indicator applets, the right click invokes the menu with the applet options, like locking, moving and

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~dbarth/indicator-appmenu/conform-to-specs-defaults into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-15 Thread David Barth
rev. 24 fixes some embarrassing... typos say. -- https://code.launchpad.net/~dbarth/indicator-appmenu/conform-to-specs-defaults/+merge/27608 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-appmenu. ___ Mailing list:

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~dbarth/indicator-appmenu/conform-to-specs-defaults into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-15 Thread David Barth
The proposal to merge lp:~dbarth/indicator-appmenu/conform-to-specs-defaults into lp:indicator-appmenu has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~dbarth/indicator-appmenu/conform-to-specs-defaults/+merge/27608 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~cjcurran/indicator-sound/custom_player_controls into lp:indicator-sound

2010-06-15 Thread David Barth
Review: Approve Looks better to me. In the 2 widgets, the _dispose function leaks memory. While I appreciate that it's tedious to maintain that during the UI prototyping phase, at least it'd deserve a big /* TODO */ in those functions to make it obvious there is a huge leak. Otherwise, cool!

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/almost-rewrite into lp:appmenu-gtk

2010-06-15 Thread Jason Smith
Review: Approve Looks good. Could use a couple comments explaining what happens in fail conditions here and there (like if your proxy is null) but nothing blocking a merge. +1 -- https://code.launchpad.net/~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/almost-rewrite/+merge/27638 Your team ayatana-commits is

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/almost-rewrite into lp:appmenu-gtk

2010-06-15 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Forgive me if I don't know exactly how libappmenu is going to be used - it's not mentioned anywhere in any of the distributed files ;-) From the looks I'd say it was the gtk module that we load into all apps to export the menu on the bus? My comments are based on that at least :-) I am a bit

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/almost-rewrite into lp:appmenu-gtk

2010-06-15 Thread Ted Gould
Mikkel, I thought that there was an easy way to get the specific name change in GDBus. I figured we'd pick up that optimization when we ported from dbus-glib to GDBus. Ted -- https://code.launchpad.net/~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/almost-rewrite/+merge/27638 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed