Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
> I've changed my mind: this is not a problem! So what if the text box > has focus automatically? That's a hidden feature. The text goes away > if you click on the box, but also when you just start typing after > opening the menu. These features co-exist. Explanatory text in a text > box seems to

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread David Hamm
@Sharma Other then slightly modifying the top image with configure buttons for the chat and broadcast, similar to the other images "sign out" part, this is a nice solid improvement over the original imo. ns website btw, took me a while to figure out that you have to

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Remco
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 15:47, Remco wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 15:04, Conscious User wrote: >> Furthermore, one of the things I currently like the most in the Me >> Menu is the fact that the text box receives focus automatically >> when you click on the Me Menu icon. That wouldn't fit your

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Frederik Nnaji
Fb asks (in German): Was machst du gerade? In english: what are you doing just now? To receive a more valuable response from the user, one should probably suggest, instead of asking.. Perhaps like: "what you are doing just now:" Gnite.. -- Gesendet von meinem Palm Pre Conscious User

Re: [Ayatana] Me Menu - Review

2010-06-29 Thread James Putt
On 30 June 2010 12:04, Conscious User wrote: > >> Actually I was suggesting we *don't* use different icons for the >> MeMenu title and menu items. While colour would be useful as it's used >> elsewhere (eg Empathy client) it conflicts with the specific meaning >> colour has in the menu bar. And us

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
Le mardi 29 juin 2010 à 15:54 +0200, Igor Vatavuk a écrit : > Hi, ayatana list! > Perhaps the text above the text-box should be in the form of a question, > similar to how Facebook, Identica and Twitter ask. > "What's on your mind?" or something like that. > Since Me-menu shows the text-box only

Re: [Ayatana] Me Menu - Review

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
> Actually I was suggesting we *don't* use different icons for the > MeMenu title and menu items. While colour would be useful as it's used > elsewhere (eg Empathy client) it conflicts with the specific meaning > colour has in the menu bar. And using mixed monochromatic/colour icons > for the menu

Re: [Ayatana] How Mozilla does community-driven open source design

2010-06-29 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Mozilla's approach to community-driven design is exactly the same as Ubuntu's: solicit ideas and implementations from all and sundry, then take an opinionated decision on which to include by default. Where Mozilla succeed better is that: 1. They solicit ideas more actively using their brand—Extend

Re: [Ayatana] Me Menu - Review

2010-06-29 Thread James Putt
On 28 June 2010 09:10, Conscious User wrote: > > Le dimanche 27 juin 2010 à 21:59 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth a écrit : >> On 23/06/10 14:37, Conscious User wrote: >> > If I understood correctly, James was suggesting *keeping* the panel >> > monochromatic >> > but giving colors to the MeMenu items. I

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Apoorva Sharma
Hi On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Luke Benstead wrote: > I think we should have a divider between the social networking stuff, and > the IM statuses as they are not related. Also, I'm not entirely sure why we > need the name on the me menu when there is a name on the Me-menu button > itself.

Re: [Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing - where does the problem lie?

2010-06-29 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/28 Frederik Nnaji > > would resizing in a grid not help with all this? It would be easier to snap > application windows to each other this way. It would also make resizing > faster in general as far as i can imagine. > > A grid is an interesting idea, especially if we are thinking about a

Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it

2010-06-29 Thread David Hamm
both of those sound good, especially pinning now that it's taking off. Basically my thinking is one should be able to tweet just as fast as they can contact sally. But then again fishbowl id say failed so it is simpler to in some regards to just have the broadcast and have everything else online. T

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Igor Vatavuk
Hi, ayatana list! Perhaps the text above the text-box should be in the form of a question, similar to how Facebook, Identica and Twitter ask. "What's on your mind?" or something like that. Since Me-menu shows the text-box only after account details have been entered, we can assume that the users wi

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-06-29 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/29 Matthew Paul Thomas > > If I have chosen to actively use another application/window, the new > > application should never take the focus even if it takes it 24 hours > > to start. > >... > > Of course, but that's *still* assuming the question. How do you define > "chosen to actively use

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Remco
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 15:04, Conscious User wrote: > >> I still think it's unclear what that text box does. I made a quick >> mockup which adds some text to the text boxes, explaining what they >> are supposed to do. This text goes away when the text box is >> activated. The social networking te

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
> I still think it's unclear what that text box does. I made a quick > mockup which adds some text to the text boxes, explaining what they > are supposed to do. This text goes away when the text box is > activated. The social networking text box says "Post Twitter > message..." when the Twitter ic

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Remco
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 14:51, Remco wrote: > I also changed the Custom Status menu entry into a text box. That > makes it even more clear that the top text box is for social > networking, and not setting status. This changes/simplifies the way > you set custom statuses: you first choose a status,

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Remco
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 13:40, Luke Benstead wrote: > I agree, once the implementation is complete things will be a lot better, > but I think we can simplify the menu a bit more. I think we should have a > divider between the social networking stuff, and the IM statuses as they are > not related.

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Luke Benstead
On 29 June 2010 12:21, Conscious User wrote: > > > > Yes, the "broadcast field" is certainly a learnable feature in the > > MeMenu. > > It will make publishing your current thought to the world very > > comfortable, i'm sure. > > But please somebody help me understand why i have a field to public

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
> Yes, the "broadcast field" is certainly a learnable feature in the > MeMenu. > It will make publishing your current thought to the world very > comfortable, i'm sure. > But please somebody help me understand why i have a field to publicly > log my thoughts next to IM presence status settings, w

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
> I think this does quite a lot for clearing up the purpose of that field. > But if you just look at that without prior/external knowledge, you still > would have to ask: Say where? To whom? I agree. In fact, seconds after sending the mockup I wondered if it wouldn't confuse users into thinking i

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialo gs without user input”

2010-06-29 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kristoffer Lundén wrote on 21/06/10 21:12: > > 2010/6/21 Matthew Paul Thomas >> So how do you define "started doing something else"? >>> >>> Something else is mouse and/or keyboard activity in an other >>> application. >> >> So how do you define

Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it

2010-06-29 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:33, David Hamm wrote: > had to throw this out there before it slipped my mind, but one of the > disadvantages to the design I proposed was that it takes a few to many > clicks to tweet. Which is of course quite a problem considering the target > audience and the typical

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:19, Conscious User wrote: > See the attached mockup. > great mockup, Conscious!! > > One of the reactions to the mockup will be "we don't > have the menu item for customizing About Me anymore". > Well, quite frankly, it is a "Preferences"-like > item. Isn't those thi

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:36, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 10:19 +0200, Conscious User wrote: > > > One thing that is universal, though, is how they are > > displayed: picture on the left, message to the right > > with the name in bold. So why not take advantage of > > the famil

Re: [Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 10:19 +0200, Conscious User wrote: > One thing that is universal, though, is how they are > displayed: picture on the left, message to the right > with the name in bold. So why not take advantage of > the familiarity of this layout to make the purpose > of the broadcasting fi

[Ayatana] Brainstorming the Me Menu again

2010-06-29 Thread Conscious User
Hello, So I've been thinking: a big problem with the Me Menu comes from the fact that there is not an universally recognized word for the act of microblogging. There are "tweets", "dents", and Facebook made the rather poor choice of using "status updates" (increasing the confusion with IMs) One