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joy chalissery wrote on 25/01/12 19:21:
Unity now has only a sidebar to the left and a bar above.
Unity does not have a sidebar.
I ask why not provide with with bars on all sides with a self
hiding feature it would be great.
What for?
you
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supernova wrote on 29/01/12 08:22:
Goodmorning (GMT+1) to all. Yesterday I tried Precise, and it
works very good. I have seen that it is a bit slower and more fat
than the gnome-shell, as it happened for 11.10, 11.04, ... . I
guess it is due to
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Michael Terry wrote on 09/01/12 16:56:
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I was about to implement a part of the new System Settings spec [1]
when I saw that it referred to the unity panel as the top bar.
That design looks like it would benefit from copyediting in general.
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Michael Terry wrote on 13/01/12 09:34:
On Fri 13 Jan 2012 10:29:41 CET, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
The menu bar, lower case, separate words.
Hrm. I'm at a Rally with some other design folks, and talked to
them yesterday about this question
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Hi Enrico
Enrico Carafa wrote on 10/01/12 20:58:
My idea is about an effect that should be added when the user
install software from the USC. I mean the effect that can be
watched on this video:
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Jonathan Meek wrote on 05/01/12 04:29:
In a recent discussion on Google+ Cassidy James (of elementary
fame) was asking just what defines a scope or lense on Unity. There
is no real set guideline for what they are or should do.
To me, Unity is
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David wrote on 06/12/11 10:05:
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the basic idea is that when you turn the computer on it shows the
minimum of indicators thats possible.
http://unity.exemo.net/panel_beginning.png you can expand them by
clicking on the arrow:
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 10/12/11 18:07:
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 18:40, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com ...
How can I minimize a window when a modal-dialog has taken over
the focus of the window? Right clicking the Update Manager icon
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Evan Huus wrote on 03/12/11 15:43:
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Currently when an event occurs (for example, someone says something
in a minimized empathy chat), a notification pops up and the
messaging indicator turns blue. They happen at the same time, but
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Conscious User wrote on 30/11/11 20:08:
Which reminds me, shouldn't we stop pretending that synchronous
and asynchronous notifications are similar enough to deserve
being close? They are not, and the current approach causes more
problems than
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Chow Loong Jin wrote on 29/11/11 16:20:
On 29/11/2011 23:08, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
The first reason is that a chat window wouldn't be noticable
unless it was frontmost; it's difficult (or little-known) to make
a window frontmost without
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David wrote on 29/11/11 21:56:
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actually we show per default:
- messages (status/chat/twitter/mail/ubuntu_one)
- battery
- bluetooth
- network
- sound (volume/music)
- clock
- session switcher (switch user)
- Power
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Enrico Carafa wrote on 27/11/11 10:32:
So, one of the most discussed topic is the position of the window
controls. To the right or to the left? Many users says that the
controls to the left is better because it's close with the menu.
But others
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Conscious User wrote on 29/11/11 17:54:
Em 29-11-2011 12:54, Matthew Paul Thomas escreveu: ...
Christian Rupp wrote on 15/11/11 16:06:
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First of all I would move the bubble closer to the panel
That looks much nicer.
Which reminds me
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Christian Rupp wrote on 15/11/11 16:06:
Currently notifications in unity are what they called:
notifications: they don't do anything else... I really like in GS
to be able to answer immediately or a friend complained that he
wants to click on
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staticd wrote on 19/11/11 11:41:
Another problem that is brought about by non resizable windows is
dealing with error messages: they get truncated and cant be
read.(e.g. software center error messages)
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And that isn't true either. The
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Matthew Paul Thomas wrote on 20/10/11 16:34:
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For some people, it is useful to open particular applications or
documents every time they log in.
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I'd appreciate your feedback on the design.
https://live.gnome.org/Design
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Josh Strawbridge wrote on 21/10/11 17:32:
yea with the lenses included in dash it finally makes all of those
buttons redundant with the possible exception of shotwell. the
whole initial dash view should be reworked.
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Sony-qs wrote on 23/10/11 00:27:
There are two more things in oneiric to change!
Before it was possible to open the Shut Down-Dialog with
Ctrl+Alt+Del, now there's is Logout! Thats not bad,
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Yes it is. :-) By itself, Ctrl Alt Del is a
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Matt Richardson wrote on 03/11/11 09:01:
It strikes me that the idea behind hiding the menus has been that
for people with touch devices these menus are not useful and future
applications should avoid the use of menus where possible.
That is
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Omar B. wrote on 28/10/11 14:48:
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From: frederik.nn...@gmail.com
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Unity introduces a new look, but Indicators Menus, which were
there before the Dash, are not yet up to date in that respect.
Obviously, there is no alpha for indicator
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Hi folks
For some people, it is useful to open particular applications or
documents every time they log in.
(For example, every day when I log in at work, I launch XChat,
Firefox, and a time sheet text document.)
Every version of Ubuntu has had a
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Hi Charles
charlesa...@gmail.com wrote on 15/10/11 20:02:
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could you make the active application top menu appears all the time
on the task bar just like mac osx?
it annoys me i have to hover my mouse to the top task bar each time
i want
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charlesa...@gmail.com wrote on 16/10/11 10:50:
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I do still believe there's something has to change regarding the up
to date software installation, just like in windows xp, though it's
old from year 2001, but we still able to install most of
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Stefanos A. wrote on 16/10/11 15:24:
*Some* windows are ok to resize, because for those windows, the
probability that people would resize them deliberately multiplied
by the benefit from doing so is greater than the probability that
people
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charlesa...@gmail.com wrote on 15/10/11 19:58:
dear unity developer team,
could you please reduce the default font and ui size of unity and
ubuntu overall, they really taking much screen real estate, or at
least give us option to reduce the
I think that would be better than trying to invent understandable rules for
when locations will be hidden, definitely. I've just forwarded you part of a
discussion I had with Ted about this. Thanks!
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Stefanos A. wrote on 13/10/11 22:22:
2011/10/13 Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com ...
Stefanos A. wrote on 13/10/11 15:09:
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Off-hand, I recall the official installer, which cannot be
resized when the show details area does not fit
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Michal Strba wrote on 12/10/11 19:38:
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This suggestion is only about design nothing more. I think that
unity panel in ubuntu looks bit boring. It looks (of course it
isn't functionally identical) as panel in 10.04+. I think that it
should
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Stefanos A. wrote on 13/10/11 15:09:
I just installed 11.10, just to be assaulted by ugly non-resizable
windows. Why, oh why?
Off-hand, I recall the official installer, which cannot be resized
when the show details area does not fit inside
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Carl Ansell wrote on 10/10/11 17:12:
A recent update placed logout, shut down and restart controls into
the dash.
I think it would be useful to have these located in the bottom
right corner of the dash rather than in the lens results, as
Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote on 03/10/11 14:16:
On 10/03/2011 03:06 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:
On 10/03/2011 01:26 PM, Anup Verma wrote:
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Let us search for MultiGet. When I write Mult in the search
MultiGet appears at the 6th position. As soon as I add 'i', I see
that
Anup Verma wrote on 03/10/11 12:26:
Friends, don't you find any problem with the algorithm used to search
in the software center. Giving you an example:
Let us search for MultiGet. When I write Mult in the search MultiGet
appears at the 6th position. As soon as I add 'i', I see that
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Jesper Lundgren wrote on 24/09/11 20:27:
... Now if I want to add korean It becomes a bit more complicated
and confusing. If I add korean in keyboard layout I can only type
in english using that layout. To get Korean I need to go into
language
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Scott Kitterman wrote on 06/09/11 11:05:
S. Christian Collins s.chriscoll...@gmail.com wrote:
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What would be ideal, IMO, would be a check box in the software center
for each application that would say something like: Always update to
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David wrote on 07/09/11 18:00:
I see many criticisms yet a lack of proposals for a suitable
replacement.
Without an explaination, people could dismiss that icon thinking I
don't want to buy applications, I'll go to the internet and see
where
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Jonathan Meek wrote on 07/09/11 19:33:
Actually, I intended something more in depth than that. I asked one of
the designers and am going to attempt to begin work on a comprehensive
HIG. Everything about the design needs to be thought out, not just
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a.gra...@gmail.com wrote on 04/09/11 14:22:
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thanks to a kind reply from Jono to a comment I did on one of his
posts, I discovered Balsamiq.
I installed it and tested a bit and later I discovered this:
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Carl Ansell wrote on 03/09/11 22:37:
At present, the only use for the mail icon in the panel is to set up
thunderbird (for email anyway). Once an account has been set up, it
would be useful for thunderbird to check emails in the background, and
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Kévin PEIGNOT wrote on 04/09/11 13:04:
I don't agree. PPA should be used only to install unstable /
unsupported features. I think the problem is that a lot of very good
programs aren't in the default repository and need to be installed via
PPA.
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a.gra...@gmail.com wrote on 05/09/11 12:42:
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On 5 September 2011 13:01, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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So now is a good time to think about how we can make Ubuntu safer by
making adding PPAs harder.
don't you think it's already
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Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote on 27/08/11 04:35:
It's fantastically cool how the lenses background color changes with
the desktop wallpaper. But when the wallpaper is a light one, then the
text in the lenses become difficult to read. For example,
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Eylem Koca wrote on 27/08/11 03:49:
The current design is justified by the motivation to move the window
control buttons to the top left.
Apparently, the usability tests for 11.04 design showed that the
window controls are better on the top left,
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Ted Gould wrote on 20/08/11 05:10:
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So it seems regularly about this time in the cycle we start getting
bugs about ... in our code instead of …. Seems that they always
creep back in, and that's very annoying. How do we keep bugs out?
Through
Review: Approve design
Good idea. I've updated the specification to match.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeviceMenuAndUserMenu?action=diffrev2=9rev1=8
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+1 to using real ellipses! Thanks.
For vs. and, I think it's better for menus, buttons, and window titles to
use , because it makes the other words in the label easier to scan. (The
same reason that those labels have most words capitalized, but not short
I don't know if anyone intends to, but I think it would be an improvement.
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Niklas Rosenqvist wrote on 02/08/11 11:07:
Hi, I've earlier suggested removing the lenses from the launcher and
integrating into the dash main page instead. I made a mockup but without
lens titles which obviously would be required:
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Mark Shuttleworth wrote on 02/08/11 09:17:
Hi Jeremy, thanks for your mail.
On 02/08/11 00:35, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
Since I help out on the Documentation Team, I value clear user
interface terminology so that users, powerusers, and maybe even
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nick rundy wrote on 22/07/11 18:08:
The newly implemented Dark Toolbars to Oneiric have left me wondering
if the Developers have forgotten one of the driving principles for
Unity--to reclaim vertical space?
Look at the following comparison
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Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote on 27/07/11 16:05:
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On 27 July 2011 13:39, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote:
We have no evidence that a non-trivial proportion of people notice
differently colored icons in the menu bar.
You might say
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Evan Huus wrote on 27/07/11 17:21:
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas
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This is what Havoc Pennington called the misguided 'hmm, maybe I can
autogenerate my GUI' stage.
http://www106.pair.com/rhp/free-software-ui.html
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Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote on 06/07/11 17:45:
On 6 July 2011 13:04, Omer Akram om26er.l...@gmail.com wrote:
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Good news, in Oneiric system settings will be removed from the
SessionMenu and an icon for it will be placed in the launcher by
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 16/06/11 11:54:
in Unity, shouldn't the Messaging menu indicator appear only once a
messaging application is up and running? i have neither a mail app nor
an instant messaging app running at the moment, still the
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Jeremy Nickurak wrote on 14/06/11 19:33:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 09:27, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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That isn't correct. I specified how it could work with focus follows
mouse in May 2010, months before Natty even had a name.
https
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Niklas Rosenqvist wrote on 18/05/11 09:02:
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There are also more situations where the global menu works like a
crippled narwhal. E.g. when working with programs as GIMP. GIMP has
one main application window and several smaller windows with tools
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Ed Lin wrote on 10/06/11 23:57:
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas
m...@canonical.com wrote:
I don't understand why you think a single OS for multiple form factors
counts as getting something right. The success of iOS, Mac
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GonzO wrote on 08/06/11 21:59:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Ed Lin edlin...@gmail.com wrote:
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Dock: I haven't seen an HD version but it looks like even the subtle
hints of running apps are gone, together with auto save their desktop
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Jonathan Meek wrote on 06/05/11 19:18:
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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The Check for updates menu is a combo box, and should not be.
Someone has just reported this bug.
http://launchpad.net/bugs/750507
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Chow Loong Jin wrote on 02/05/11 19:07:
In Ubuntu 11.04, Unity has effectively removed notification area
support for almost everything but a few exceptions, which are
maintained in a whitelist specified in dconf.
I'm not exactly sure why this
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Jonathan Meek wrote on 07/04/11 03:22:
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An example: Go to Power Management preferences and click the combobox
for action to take on laptop lid closing, a menu will appear and you
can choose an item at your leisure. Now, go run CCSM and go to the
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GonzO Rodrigue wrote on 23/04/11 18:43:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Mitja Pagon mitja.pa...@inueni.com
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http://design.canonical.com/2011/04/unity-benchmark-usability-april-2011/
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Kevin Liao wrote on 12/04/11 14:48:
Hi all,
I've been wondering, the Global Menu debate has been very furious for a
while now. Proponents argue that Fitts Law is efficient. However,
Unity's implementation of the Global Menu is that it becomes a
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Luke Benstead wrote on 13/04/11 12:11:
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If you guys haven't watched this (well, listened mainly) you really
should.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaLDMz_e2jQfeature=player_embedded
I have to say though, I agree with him on pretty much
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Kévin PEIGNOT wrote on 05/04/11 14:04:
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I still don't see why using a global menu on non-maximised windows.
Even for consistency it's useless : if the menu bar is in the panel
*just for maximised* windows, every windows will have it's menu
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giff gill wrote on 05/04/11 18:32:
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But I have to say, that's interesting. Unity was initially designed
with netbook formfactor and user case in mind and later extended to
the desktop. Still the fundamental design was kept 1:1, the same
design
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Conscious User wrote on 01/04/11 18:57:
The idea that all non-immediate notifications should be grouped
together in a single place, regardless of topic, is very much like the
idea that progress for all long-running tasks should be grouped
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David Gorski wrote on 04/04/11 19:55:
I recently installed Natty on my machine and I was really impressed by
how far Unity has come. Everything is smooth and I have almost no
crashes. The interface is also very clean. The only item that stands out
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giff g wrote on 04/04/11 16:24:
Here are some reasons why I think the application menu in unity as it is now
is a failed attempt at improving the user experience in Ubuntu.
1) Primary target of Ubuntu Unity are _net_books, accordingly the most
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Conscious User wrote on 31/03/11 18:57:
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In Natty, the Ubuntu One item was moved from the Me Menu from
the Messaging Menu. Was this agreed on by the design team?
Not as far as I know. I reported a bug about it that was marked Invalid.
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SorinN wrote on 30/03/11 22:33:
Matthew
If it's an obscene amount, your pointer acceleration settings are
wrong: you'll have just as much trouble getting to the Ubuntu button,
the Trash, or the session menu.
The obscene amount is still
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Saleel Velankar wrote on 29/03/11 15:16:
In a nonmaximized window on
a. a large screen
b. with other nonmaximized windows present
The global-menubar fails for these reasons.
1. Confusion on which application the menu is for.
This is a bug in
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Spike Burch wrote on 28/03/11 12:38:
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Users are more than welcome to choose to use something else, you know.
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Yeah, but if you keep saying that often enough, they will.
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M. Adnan Quaium wrote on 23/03/11 12:08:
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I think it would be better if the 'messaging menu' (the envelop icon)
and the 'me menu' (the speech-bubble icon with user name) are placed
side-by-side. Right now they are placed at the two opposite ends
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Sorry I can't reply to all your suggestions, just the ones I know
anything about.
Jimmy Forrester-Fellowes wrote on 23/03/11 14:48:
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* The first thing that hit me was why is the ubuntu button so small
compared with launcher buttons?
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 17/03/11 10:16:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 14:27, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com
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The subject is already receiving less attention than I wanted
without being derailed, [...]
unfortunately so.
perhaps we
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Luke Benstead wrote on 15/03/11 21:53:
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Erm, I hate to point out the obvious, but why don't we just put the
menu back in the windows and abandon appmenu as a failed experiment?
Keep the title and window controls in the panel for maximized
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Scott Kitterman wrote on 16/03/11 12:42:
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A bug is a bug no matter who files it. If we're down to it's only a
real bug if certain people file the bug, then that's a real problem.
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I totally agree. I don't think my bug reports should get
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Marc Lajoie wrote on 15/03/11 15:22:
Hey, wow, I see you guys are already way ahead of me on this one.
So how can I help? Is there already some code on this that I can hack
on?
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The existing menu is part of gnome-settings-daemon.
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Paul Sladen wrote on 16/03/11 11:29:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
Do you know of any Ubuntu application that was trying to use its menu
titles as an indicator in the first place?
The Gimp and various other MDI applications
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Marc Lajoie wrote on 13/03/11 09:27:
Ubuntu needs a consolidated keyboard indicator, one that allows users
to change keyboard layouts and keyboard input methods all in one place.
Check out the attached image to see what a disaster the current
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Scott Ritchie wrote on 08/03/11 10:57:
The global menu is based on the assumption that it's easier to hit the
corner of the screen than it is to hit the edge of the active window.
This breaks down, however, when the mouse doesn't actually stop
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Kostas Sytske wrote on 11/03/11 16:04:
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At the moment it is only possible to maximize a window but it's not
possible to minimize a window in Unity by clicking it's icon.
The minimize button in the top panel is a option but it would be nice
if
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Chow Loong Jin wrote on 15/02/11 17:05:
On Tuesday 08,February,2011 09:36 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
A window's close button should close the window. Anything else the
program does should aim for the least overall distraction.
Please
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 25/02/11 12:22:
I noticed a degree of redundancy in the usage of the metaphor idle,
which might be something we can eliminate.
In the attached screenshot i marked all instances and synonyms of
idle.
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Well
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 15/02/11 13:39:
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:36, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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The items in the status menus are shortcuts. Sometimes someone will go
into the clock menu to change something about
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Mark Curtis wrote on 28/02/11 19:14:
Chrome's tab behavior for quickly closing tabs is for quickly closing
the current tab and the ones after (to the right) of it.
Once there are no more tabs to the right, it works for tabs to the left
as well, up
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cyrildz wrote on 04/02/11 17:24:
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in the Preferences' Menu (System-- Preferences) we have:
-Instant Messaging and VoIP
- Microbloging
-Network Connexion
-Sound
-About Me
-Ubuntu One
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ks64 wrote on 01/02/11 18:27:
Despite all the hype about Unity, there is one thing that is making me
miss GNOME Shell: built-in screencasting. Press Ctrl+Shift+Alt+R and you
can start and stop screencast recording in GNOME Shell. If a similar
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Paul Sladen wrote on 27/01/11 12:24:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
Chromium and Chrome have close buttons on the right of their tabs
because it's faster to use than having them on the left.
http://www.theinvisibl.com/2009/12/08
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Martín A. Casco wrote on 16/01/11 13:22:
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With the last release of Elementary theme, authors include a modd for
Scrollbars.. No Steppers.
The argument: Users normally don't use them, just use mouse scroll or
handle scrollbars. well I think
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Valeryan_24 wrote on 17/01/11 09:41:
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As Ubuntu now has Close - Minimize - Maximize buttons on right side
of the window, as Unity panel will be on the left side of screen, I
wonder if it would be possible also to get the X close buttons on
tabs
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Owais Lone wrote on 15/01/11 14:03:
I was just wondering if we could replace the window title in the panel
with an application menu like firefox. Since we are also trying to move
away from a menu bars, I think this could be a nice addition to the
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Thamawij Pirajnaraporn wrote on 13/01/11 21:40:
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I have seen the 10.10 netbook and 11.04 Alpha, Unity dock is a big
improvement but I think global menu is not a good idea with the
following reasons. (At first I though it was a modified gnome
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Hi Cimi and Otto
Since you are having a theme sprint next week, I've taken a couple of
hours to write up a Top Ten list of my least favorite theme problems in
Natty. (This also prompted me to report some as bugs that weren't
reported already.)
Some
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 28/12/10 20:40:
MPT, here's shot at it, i took my time to do it in Inkscape now ;)
it portrays a new Me/Messaging Menu layout.
That's intriguing. I don't understand what the gap is for, though, or
how the bottom
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Conscious User wrote on 20/12/10 11:57:
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I think the Messaging Menu *should* be purely an inbox, because one
of the most common complaints against the notifications redesign
is how reacting to IM/mail notifications is now less efficient
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dani wrote on 31/12/10 14:24:
i made some mockups that i think are a good and simple solution for this
problem, i hope you like:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/redesign_memenu%26mesagemenu
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I do like. That's the best
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 02/01/11 05:13:
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today, i was working on some UML, trying myself with a complex diagram.
I'm so so bad with UML, so i was forced to focus and concentrate, i
wanted to be undisturbed.
The music i put on in
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 17/12/10 15:18:
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 14:58, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com mailto:frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on
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