Re: [Ayatana] How to disable Music Available for Purchase
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Thibaut Brandscheid wrote: How to turn the 'Available for Purchase' function in Oneiric off? sudo apt-get remove unity-scope-musicstores Should remove the component in question. -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] make adding ppas easier
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Christian Rupp wrote: Hello Christian, find a way in the middle. …checked ppas get an easy to add link. Indeed, at the moment any PPA can provide (and override) any package in the system. Separating out archives that can provide core system infrastructure, from leaf-node PPAs providing add-on functionality would probably enable much of what you're after. This could be done with signing keys; large organisations (clusters, universities, corporates) who still want to override core functionality locally could just add their own trusted keys to the Ubuntu-derived system images they give users. -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~sladen/indicator-session/indicator-session-system-devices-naming into lp:indicator-session
Paul Sladen has proposed merging
lp:~sladen/indicator-session/indicator-session-system-devices-naming into
lp:indicator-session.
Requested reviews:
Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers)
For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~sladen/indicator-session/indicator-session-system-devices-naming/+merge/72122
Adjust icon names per email of 2011-08-09.
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=== modified file 'src/indicator-session.c'
--- src/indicator-session.c 2011-08-12 12:23:35 +
+++ src/indicator-session.c 2011-08-18 23:46:18 +
@@ -498,8 +498,7 @@
}
}
else if (g_strcmp0(signal_name, RebootRequired) == 0) {
-// TODO waiting on design to give me a name.
-self-devices.image = indicator_image_helper (system-devices-alert-panel);
+self-devices.image = indicator_image_helper (system-devices-panel-alert);
}
}
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Re: [Ayatana] Oneiric customization
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011, Roth Robert wrote: Hello Robert, You've clearly done your research! Some of the links you dug up I hadn't even seen, so you might be in a better position to answer this than I, but I also don't want you to think that you're in an empty room and not getting a reply just because you've done the research! Two weeks ago in Dublin a bunch of the people working on Gtk3, GNOME, LightDM certainly were having some discussions that covered these two specific topics (wallpapers and screensavers). Those directly involved may be able to provide some better input, for /my/ memory of those discussions… what customization options will Oneiric have average users will have the default background …my understanding is that yes, the user will be able to change the wallpaper. It would be boring otherwise! I believe that the primary method will be via the Control Centre (sorry, I haven't upgraded to Oneiric on this laptop yet to check easily), but I had a feeling that it was the first option offered in the GNOME3 Settings/Control Centre. There are likely to be other contextual methods too, such as the Image Viewer option you mention. Indeed, some of the recent user-testing written up by mpt and Charline has highlighted that tested route via Settings/Control Centre is not easily found (people had to be explicitly asked to /not/ right-click on the Desktop to change the wallpaper!), see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-April/032988.html Changing the wallpaper (which is ever-present from boot-up to shutdown) is an important customisation and personalisation opportunity so is likely to be retained for the forseable future. - changing the screensaver is not possible The major driver here has been people demanding more battery life. Sadly screensavers weren't designed to save power, but instead to save phosphor from burning in CRTs. I believe at the moment that the screensaver runs for just a few minutes before vanishing and allowing the screen to turn off anyway. How this pans out, we'll have to see. But it's fairly likely that even with a switch to LightDM for the login manager in Ubuntu 11.10, that Ubuntu will follow the upstream GNOME3 choice and not enable screensavers by default. Of course, there are many choices: Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu... in order to ship a stable LightDM/Unity/Ubuntu within the power curves expected, and within the fixed timeline the priorisations will probably be elsewhere. That's not to say that you couldn't work on it, or write a howto and propose both/either; just that for the main designers/developers working on something extra that is also known to introduce power- envelope regressions is unlikely to be a main priority (time is more valuably spent on other parts of the stack that /need/ to be done or stablised during the Ubuntu 11.10 release cycle). affecting the general look of the system (selecting one of the two official Ubuntu themes, ambiance or radiance, selecting another font/font size, maybe icon theme). I think these should all be fine and accessible in the GNOME3 Control Centre. we ... don't have a fully functional app for personalizing ubuntu I wouldn't worry. Similiar to the 'gnome-tweak-tool' that you mentioned, an Unity tweak tool popped in within about 24 hours! http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/ubuntu-unity-2d-tweaking-tool-lets-you-adjust-the-launcher-dash-enable-compositing/ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/unity-personalization-how-much-can-you-really-do/ Perhaps you'll even be one of the author(s) of it! :-) -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Pippa Kyle wrote: a. Already being in a Terminal (currently Alt-tab-tab-tab) b. Needing to switch from a Firefox window? (Alt-tab-tab-tab-tab) We're thinking maybe: ... If I understand correctly? a. From another Terminal Alt-*long pause*-tab-tab-tab b. From a Firefox window Alt-Tab-*long pause*-tab-tab-tab -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching - 1 level or 2?
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Pippa Kyle wrote: When using Alt-Tab for switching between windows, would you like windows of a particular app grouped under that app? Thank you Pippa! Could you describe how a second-level selection might work? For instance, if I have fifteen full-screen terminals open, how would the selection process work if I wanted to switch to the third-to-most-recent Terminal, from: a. Already being in a Terminal (currently Alt-tab-tab-tab) b. Needing to switch from a Firefox window? (Alt-tab-tab-tab-tab) -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Alt-Tab and switching
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Pippa Kyle wrote: Hello Pippa, greetings! Personally I like the Windows way, as the window preview It's been a while (a decade) since I was regularly using MS Windows machines, and I expect that there may have been a few revisions in the mean-time! Would you be able to describe in prose form or with screenshots what the precise behaviours you've got in mind are? This would make it easier for people less familiar with those platforms to follow along. I think my own observations about Alt-Tab are that I don't really look at the dialogues presented and mainly rely on Alt-Tab acting as a reliable LIFO stack (most recent first). For your request, is it the behaviour itself that you're looking into, or just the accompanying user-interface and visible arrangement? -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Xavier Guillot wrote: - For me it is not a problem that window title hides the menu at first I bet there's a possible solution somewhere with blurring/transparaceny. The model used with the notification pop-ups is that they are transparent to click-events and blur/fade when moused-over, which is effectively what the window-title/menu also does on mouse-over. -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
Do you know of any Ubuntu application that was trying to use its menu
titles as an indicator in the first place?
The Gimp and various other MDI applications prepend an asterisk ('*')
to the front of the window title to show an edited, but unsaved work.
Whilst I am aware of the convention, I don't notice it and there are
probably better ways of conveying if your machine naughtily crashes
right now $some unspecified amount of work will be lost.
-Paul
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity Dock Icons behavior - Context Menu
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Xavier Guillot wrote: - Keep in launcher - Quit and a third one to launch another window of the program ... Now this possibility disappeared, it's available with middle click. Hello Xavier. I've leaned over the table and enquired about this, and John has told me that the middle-click shortcut is supposed to be *in addition* to the means of opening a new window via the right-click QuickList. Apparently it's a co-incidence that one temporarily disappeared whilst the other was being introduced. -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] Global menu/indicator synchronisation
I noticed this interesting behaviour today---I must have been subconsciously aware of it before, but didn't think twice about: a. Click on File menu, scrub with mouse to indicators (Menus stay visible) b. Click on Indicators and scrub to File menu (Menus toggle back and forth) I don't have an opinion on correctness---but possibly other people might! ;-) -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Menu bar integrated in title bar in Unity
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011, Luke Benstead wrote: On 18 February 2011 13:23, Andrew Laignel a.laig...@sportsweb.biz wrote: https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:Firefox-4-Mockup-i06-%28Win7%29-%28Aero%29-%28TabsTop%29.png *cough* Err... yeah, like that :) These kinds of menus are okay for very seldomly-used ones---such as those in a browser, or an instant messaging application---but I've never been particularly keen on them for menus that actually have to be *used* (word-processor, drawing application, ...). My understanding is that humans remember grids: across, then down. When that type of vertical menu is: down, down, down, ... the instant positional memory is not there. My best regular example of this is the huge right-click menu in GIMP. After a decade of near-daily use I still don't have a mental model of what that menu looks like, other than knowing that the option I want is somewhere in 2-3 layers of side-ways shuffling. Admittedly I quite happily used the similiarly ballooning side-ways menus in RiscOS for several years prior to that; compare: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RLXilJdXGMo/0.jpg (RiscOS !Draw) http://math.hws.edu/eck/cs120/f02/lab4/gimp_menus.gif (GIMP) -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Font as default for web site
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, cyrildz wrote: Hello Ngassam, Ubuntu Font are really nice, beautiful, I'm glad you like the Ubuntu Font Family, and find it practical! set the Ubuntu Font as default for all website, The CSS font-family: Ubuntu is already used on the Ubuntu sites, and additionally it is served as a webfont meaning that hopefully it displays even when the fonts are not yet available locally. Is your suggestion that we go beyond this, and set Ubuntu as the default browser font in Firefox, Chromium, Konqueror, ...? If so, this is a wonderful suggestion (I already use it as the default in Firefox on my own machine). Perhaps something that can be done for the next release of Ubuntu (11.04)? I know it doesn't seem long, but the Ubuntu Font Family has only been shipping for a mere four months, so it's still early days! In the mean-time, I believe that there is a Firefox plugin that overrides the default font for Wikipedia and other sites. -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Launcher DnD - import applications on DnD start
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011, [ISO-8859-1] Mart�n A. Casco wrote: El jue, 10-02-2011 a las 11:18 -0500, Jason Smith escribió: Hmm this is a good point, maybe 2 or 3 then? quickly and simple open a file with right click Unless the pointer is your finger... -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialogs without user input”
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 19:30, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: if you released the mouse button, or the keyboard key, 0.5 seconds before So, we've gone as far as ignoring raise requests 0.5 seconds after the last release event. I want to be notified, not interrupted or thrown out Something I've hit a several times this week (owing to an abundance of particular pathetic wifi) is: 1. Busy typing away in a shell 2. Wifi password dialogue pops up 3. tap-ety-tap-tapety-tap [enter] I've now overwritten the (perfectly good) wifi password with the end of my commandline, as well as having had a few words of input delivered to the wrong place. Perhaps the new window could be raised and placed in a *non-overlapping* portion of the screen (if possible), but without the input/window manager focus being changed. This way the next window would be visible, but without the user's link of communication to the previous window being severed. A one-time click-to-focus would allow the user to consciously change where they are typing in their own time. -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] The Unity launcher window matching policy
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Conscious User wrote: to track all applications in the Ubuntu repositories whose windows are not being currently correctly matched to a .desktop file I noticed that running 'pango-view' from the command-line adds not one, but two icons. Perhaps one for the list. -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Application tab layout, move close button to left-hand side
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011, Valeryan_24 wrote: X close buttons on tabs put to the left for the applications Firefox - Thunderbird - Libre Office - Empathy - Nautilus - Gedit - Shutter... Hello Xavier, Whether to swap the tab cose buttons is a very interesting question, it's one of those what should X do in situation Y type policy questions where the technical implementation is likely to be easier than deciding what should be done in the first place. Dynamically placing the close buttons in application tabs develops some interesting side-effects, all of which would need specifying and working out first For example taking Firefox, the tabs are drawn: [ Icon, Name...Close ] If you open several tabs and then close them again; When there is only one tab remaining then the Close button on it iis hidden from view (it disappears completely). If this tab close button was on the left-hand side, there would either need to be a strange-looking gap, or the tab title would need to be moved leftwards to fill the space. -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Printing progress indicator
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Sohail Mirza wrote: Hello Sohail, Is there an indicator-printer in the works? Others may be able to give you a better and more reliable answer, but my expectation would be that in the short-term similar (similar to nm-applet for Network Manager) the existing printer funcationality would be presented as a D-Bus status indicator under the APP_INDICATOR_CATEGORY_HARDWARE category: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Ship Firefox with theme matching light-themes
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, [ISO-8859-1] K�vin PEIGNOT wrote: Le vendredi 14 janvier 2011 à 10:05 +, Paul Sladen a écrit : On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, [ISO-8859-1] Kvin PEIGNOT wrote: integrate by default a personna in firefox, Hello Kevin, I had to Google for what a Firefox persona is, Yes that's it, their themes are called personnas. Excellent. I've retyped the URLs in the screenshots, which are: Ubuntu Ambiance Gradiant by James http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/124266 Ubuntu Radiance by James http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/121573 Ubuntu Maverick Radiance Gradient by Goozer http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/300916 If anyone is interested it's possible to test these just by mousing over and hovering aobve the orange Wear this Persona button in the middle of the above pages; no need to install or configure anything. Information about creating Personas is at: http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/demo_create it appears that the format is fairly simple, consisting of: 1. 3000 x 200 pixel header image 2. 3000 x 100 pixel footer image Kevin: if you'd like this, please could you file a bug against light-themes to build matching Firefox personas, and we'll let other people here on the list debate if it's a good idea: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+filebug (Despite hunting, I haven't worked out how this dynamic roll-over testing works... interesting black magic). -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] Unity autohide slide angle
(Personal) Reflections on Unity Launcher autohide; see video at bottom for a possible interaction improvement by tweaking the slide angle. Currently the Unity Launcher autohides by moving westwards off the edge of the screen ...if the user intuitively tries chasing the Launcher by moving the pointer westwards, it will not bring it back. The Launcher is effectively hiding in the north-west of the screen currently---the vendor logo being the target where the user must move the pointer to in order to fetch it back. I've been wondering whether, if the hiding transition direction were to be changed to be a 30-degree or 45-degree diagonal (rather than the present horizontal), it might be more intuitive to the user---so I implemented this as a test: http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/unity/launcher-autohide-north-west.mp4 (639 kB) It could do with some amount of tweaking, and it's subtle enough that eight out of ten cats probably wouldn't notice the difference (if asked upfront), even though their sub-conscious will likely notice. -Paul PS. I've also now tried 21 degrees, which corresponds to the ratio of the box of the vendor logo; this is even more subtle but seems to still convey the hint of where the Launcher might have gone and perhaps looks a tad slicker/smoother. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Do Not Disturb---across multiple applications
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Part of the attractiveness ... is they save you from having to make the same change in multiple applications. I hit an interesting use-case two nights ago. 1. Six-way conference call on Skype 2. Messages still coming in via Empathy and interupting I was afraid to set myself offline in the MeMenu incase it kicked me off the conference call in Skype (Skype is probably not quite integrated, but the presumption is that it would be long-term). Perhaps that setting would have been Busy, but I didn't dare try it! -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Touch size (was: Embedded gnome-panel functional...)
On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, Thamawij Pirajnaraporn wrote: On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Thamawij Pirajnaraporn wrote: A panel is not a thing for touch. In fact, it's really hard to touch it No one interesting in this topic? Hello Thamawij, I tried to cover and answer all the three original emails in a single reply. Eg. talking about the small size of targets, I pointed at the more gobal multi-touch gestures language. As noted in the other email it was quite hard to grasp the other all high-level context. It was not my intent and to have overlooked anything in particular. Could you highlight anything that was missed specifically? -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] WM icon touch target size/position (was: Embedded gnome-panel functional)
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Thamawij Pirajnaraporn wrote: Hello Thamawij, Welcome! It took me a couple of minutes to fully parse the mockup and try to work out what it's showing; if I understand correctly, it is demonstrating an idea to move the window-manager and indicator icon placement from the top of the screen to the right-hand side: 1. Use a second panel at the right-hand of the screen 2. Containing larger versions of those icons in the top bar 3. Full-screen apps would have 100% of _height_ but less width Is that correct? A panel is not a thing for touch. In fact, it's really hard to touch it since it is very thin. For touch, the focus is really around multi-touch. If you're a touch user used to single fingers then many of the actions you've highlighted above as being hard because of their size will be available via higher-level multi-finger gestures. Initial parts of this gesture language are described in http://design.canonical.com/ - Unity Gesture UI Guidelines or more directly, but with a less pretty URL: https://docs.google.com/View?id=dfkkjjcj_1482g457bcc7#5_Initial_gestures_07691306807_35605821083299816 (This is dated September 2010, so I need to check if it's the latest). Often, very-specific actions such as toggling the wifi or adjusting the volume that /could/ be done via a menu are available directly as hardware keys. In these cases the indicators are serving more as feedback indicators _to_ the user and less as something that needs to be clicked or interacted with directly in a touch environment. -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Some ideas for the Software Center
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 13/12/10 11:52, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Like apt-get, USC installs recommended items by default, we could recommend the Python bindings and development libraries. I suspect a lot of this will require some server-side smarts but it's a fruitful area for us to be exploring. There is Enhances: which is the inverse equivalent of Suggests: (declared in package B, rather than package A), but currently no counterpart for Recommends:: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps Flipping it over also means that the operators are inverted, so 'Recommends: x | y | z' becomes 'Super-Enhances: x y z' (autoremovable install if Python and some other package). -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 21/12/10 15:08, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: Email notifications tell me when I need to have my email open. We're in complete agreement - the mail client should happily run in the background with no windows showing, How would this work with Hotmail/Gmail? These mail clients are highly popular but there's going to need to be some cunning level of integration to have that experience just work. Jeremy: were you originally referring to the workflow where (eg. after your morning login) *no applications have yet been started*, but you'd still like to see a notification that there are 10 messages and 147 spams that have arrived overnight? ---Prompting you to then start the mail client itself? -Paul ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
