[Ayatana] Lenses need a method to provide attribution for APIs

2011-04-05 Thread Stefano
It seems that a lot of lenses are going to use various web APIs, some of which require attribution. My hypothesis is that people will start to abuse features, such as groups, to provide attribution when they must. It should therefore be a good idea to provide hooks to solve this problem. My initi

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread nick rundy
There are a lot of other applications that benefit from the additional space afforded by merging the titlebar and menubar into the panel besides the web-browser. Nautilus, media players, music players, word processors, e-mail clients, text editors, burning software, etc. Not all applications pl

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread Luke Benstead
On 5 April 2011 13:47, nick rundy wrote: > There are a lot of other applications that benefit from the additional space > afforded by merging the titlebar and menubar into the panel besides the > web-browser. Nautilus, media players, music players, word processors, e-mail > clients, text editors,

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread Andrew Laignel
There are several large, glaring, problems with the global menu as I see it: Menu's are outdated. It's clear from the last few years that menus as we know it are playing a more diminished role. Large amounts of applications simply don't use them as they are largely a crutch for poor UI design.

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
Le 05/04/2011 14:47, nick rundy a écrit : > There are a lot of other applications that benefit from the additional > space afforded by merging the titlebar and menubar into the panel > besides the web-browser. Nautilus, media players, music players, word > processors, e-mail clients, text editors,

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread giff gill
On 4/5/2011 2:47 PM, nick rundy wrote: For example, Unity has the 1.) panel, 2.) web-browser tabbar, and 3.) web-browser URL bar. A default install of Windows has the 1.) Windows taskbar, 2.) web-browser URL bar, and 3.) web-browser tabbar, and 4.) the titlebar if the tabs are not placed over it.

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread giff gill
On 4/5/2011 3:02 PM, Andrew Laignel wrote: What the global menu does is take this decision away from the application developer and basically says 'you are getting a menu, tough'. It wouldn't be too bad but do not forget that this decision will have ramifications for Ubuntu for at least a decade

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread giff gill
On 4/5/2011 12:51 AM, Ian Santopietro wrote: Even if they did break each other, changing the entire interface on a per app basis isn't a good idea either, as that would create huge inconsistencies. I don't think we need a placeholder menu for windows that don't otherwise have a menu, but getting

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread Andrew Laignel
Actually you can stick the windows bar on the left and get pretty much the same effect as unity. Looking at my colleagues W7 machine (I have a Mac) running Firefox 4, maximized it has tabs-on-top with no menu. You can do dock-on-the-left with OSX too. I think the thinking behind the bar at the b

[Ayatana] Novell Evolution, and just how awesome it is.

2011-04-05 Thread ikt
Some prominent software featured in Ubuntu as currently reviewed in the Ubuntu Software Centre: Chromium - 4.5 | 69 ratings Firefox - 4.5/5 | 44 ratings Banshee - 4.5/5 | 38 ratings LibreOffice Writer - 4.5/5 | 14 ratings Shotwell - 4.5/5 | 12 ratings Transmission Bittorrent Client - 4.5/5 | 12

Re: [Ayatana] Merging libindicate into libnotify

2011-04-05 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Conscious User wrote on 01/04/11 18:57: > >> The idea that all non-immediate "notifications" should be grouped >> together in a single place, regardless of topic, is very much like the >> idea that progress for all long-running tasks should be grouped

Re: [Ayatana] Integrate Alt-tab with Unity Launcher

2011-04-05 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Gorski wrote on 04/04/11 19:55: > > I recently installed Natty on my machine and I was really impressed by > how far Unity has come. Everything is smooth and I have almost no > crashes. The interface is also very clean. The only item that stands

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 giff g wrote on 04/04/11 16:24: > > Here are some reasons why I think the application menu in unity as it is now > is a failed attempt at improving the user experience in Ubuntu. > > 1) Primary target of Ubuntu Unity are _net_books, accordingly the mos

Re: [Ayatana] Integrate Alt-tab with Unity Launcher

2011-04-05 Thread Ingo Gerth
It might be an interesting idea to highlight the current selection in alt-tab by a similar effect that is currently shown when pressing alt-F1. The window(s) corresponding to the application would then be shown on the right hand side of the launcher, with the launcher being permanently visible. Rep

Re: [Ayatana] Integrate Alt-tab with Unity Launcher

2011-04-05 Thread Ian Santopietro
What about using Alt+Tab to call up the Window preview (Copy Super+W). Continuing to press the key combo would highlight the next/previous window in the sequence, and when you let go of Alt, it goes to the currently highlighted window? On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:05, Ingo Gerth wrote: > It might b

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-05 Thread giff gill
On 4/5/2011 5:38 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > giff g wrote on 04/04/11 16:24: >> >> Here are some reasons why I think the application menu in unity as it is now >> is a failed attempt at improving the user experience in Ubuntu. >> >> 1) Prima

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

2011-04-05 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 23:38 -0300, Conscious User wrote: > I should mention, though, that in my opinion the fact that Unity merges > the titlebar with the panel makes the dragging slightly more intuitive: > you drag the titlebar to the thing it's going to be merged to. Perhaps > *too* slightly to

[Ayatana] Novell Evolution, and just how awesome it is.

2011-04-05 Thread Spike Burch
-- Forwarded message -- From: Spike Burch Date: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Novell Evolution, and just how awesome it is. To: i...@ikt.id.au Part of the problem is that the rest of the email clients available also suck, and evolution is the only one (that

[Ayatana] Compiz default animations are too fast

2011-04-05 Thread Melvin Garcia
Hi guys/gals. My name is Melvin Garcia, and I'm new to the list. I was comparing Mac's Quartz and Windows' Aero animations to Ubuntu's default animation settings and noticed a few things. First of all Ubuntu's animations are too fast, to the point of being almost invisible and in some cases totall