Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Consaguinidad question on marriage record

2015-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
So iim not sure is Angela saying there was no consanguinity? Thank you for your help. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Ângela Loura angelalo...@gmail.com wrote: There was no insurgencies, except for consanguinity motives, which were dismissed due to an errand sent by

[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco/a Dutra, Ribeirinha, Terceira: Gender identity disorder?

2015-02-14 Thread bsei2816
I thought I found the baptism of my grandfather's older brother Francisco; but if I understand the margin note correctly I actually found his older sister, Francisca. On the record for Francisco (center left), does the margin note say that the record was corrected [almost 42 years after the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Tom Hanks, Portuguese ancestry

2015-02-14 Thread A Faria
Hi, I'm looking for more specific information on Tom Hanks Portuguese ancestry. Does anyone have more information than this link? His mother's surname on the Frager originally Fraga but on her mothers side they were Rose(Rosa?)

[AZORES-Genealogy] Please Help Translate Baptism Record

2015-02-14 Thread 'don medeiros' via Azores Genealogy
I have been working to translate this baptismal record and could really use some assistance. I would really appreciate the help. The baptism record is for Antonio Medeiros from 1892. It is item 49 which flows onto the following page. São Miguel, Ponta Delgada, Arrifes, Batismos 1890-1899

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tom Hanks, Portuguese ancestry

2015-02-14 Thread luiznoia .
Antonio, His Frager family, originally Gonsalves Fraga comes from Ponta Delgada, Flores. The immigrant ancestor, Francisco Gonsalves Fraga. B 1848 arrived in California in 1864. He was married in San Leandro in 1869 to Barbara Enos, also of Flores Francisco and his sons were cattle ranchers

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please Help Translate Baptism Record

2015-02-14 Thread Cheri Mello
Don M, What specifically do you need help reading? It's a beautiful record, very clear. Do you need names? Dates? What can you pick out of it and we can help you get the others. There's a how to here on reading the records. http://goo.gl/h5zMAO Cheri -- For options, such as changing to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Godfather's title?

2015-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
The fifth sentence from the bottom says the godfather was Joaquim JOSE de Sousa then it looks like Sui juris. He's been named as godfather for several kids in that family and it always has that after his name but I can't figure out what it says. (Tried google translation but I must not be

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tom Hanks, Portuguese ancestry

2015-02-14 Thread A Faria
Thanks. On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 1:52:44 PM UTC-8, luiznoia wrote: Antonio, His Frager family, originally Gonsalves Fraga comes from Ponta Delgada, Flores. The immigrant ancestor, Francisco Gonsalves Fraga. B 1848 arrived in California in 1864. He was married in San

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Godfather's title?

2015-02-14 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Sui Juris usually means an adult person who is self sufficient, living by his own means. My Websters gave me this slant: an adult perso having full legal rights or capacity Hope that helps. Hermano Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Godfather's title? From: maria.lima...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 14 Feb

[AZORES-Genealogy] Consaguinidad question on marriage record

2015-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
On the fifth line down it talks about consaguinidad. Can you tell from this what the relationship was- it seems to say something about except for consaguinidad... I didn't see that word on other records as standard wording. Right hand page for Antonio da Silva

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Godfather's title?

2015-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
Thank you Hermano. Judging by all the godchildren he had- I was thinking he had to be economically able to handle that many godchildren. So it makes sense what you said. Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote: Sui Juris usually means an

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Consaguinidad question on marriage record

2015-02-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Maria Elena, it says they were blood related and that they were given dispensation to marry as there were no other impediments. It does not sate the degree of that blood relation which could have been a clerical omission. On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Consaguinidad question on marriage record

2015-02-14 Thread A Faria
I am not sure but I believe a dispensation was required for first cousins to marry but not second cousins perhaps someone could verify that. Antonio Faria -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Godfather's title?

2015-02-14 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Sui Juris Means he is single and living by himself. It is a Latin legal term. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lima Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 6:12 PM To: AZORES Subject:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Consaguinidad question on marriage record

2015-02-14 Thread Ângela Loura
There was no insurgencies, except for consanguinity motives, which were dismissed due to an errand sent by some Reverend. 2015-02-15 1:00 GMT+00:00 Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com: On the fifth line down it talks about consaguinidad. Can you tell from this what the relationship was- it

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Consaguinidad question on marriage record

2015-02-14 Thread pico
But it's no more distant than 3rd cousins.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Consaguinidad question on marriage record From: Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco/a Dutra, Ribeirinha, Terceira: Gender identity disorder?

2015-02-14 Thread Cheri Mello
Bill S, Looks that way to me. I don't understand how they can mess up the sex of the baby. They must have had the hard liquor out at your ancestor's baptism! :) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco/a Dutra, Ribeirinha, Terceira: Gender identity disorder?

2015-02-14 Thread bsei2816
For the record, I found the real Francisco Dutra two years later. This one seems to have stayed Francisco and male. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1911_item1/P125.html Bill On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 9:08:52