I thought I acknowledged the error in my earlier comments. How it got there
I don't recall. I just made some other corrections taken from the Ribeira
Quente casamentos index.
Bottom line, check your files against the records if you want to be
accurate.
JR
On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at
Yes, I have that Virginia linked to Joao Ignacio de Lima and Francisca Rosa
de Mello. But JR has her linked wrong. I think he made a typo in his
genealogy program because he wrote this:
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Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,
Cheri,
Virginia is Maria Lima (Antonio's cousin and wife)'s sister: Maria and
Virginia are daughters of Joao Lima and Francesco Rose de Mello (herself,
the daughter of Manoel de Mello Barboza and Maria Julia Linhares. Antonio
and Maira share the same great grandfather, Francisco de Mello
JR, Are you sure on that Virginia born on 23 Mar 1893 to Antonio de Mello
Barboza and Claudina de Jesus? She's not born quite 9 months after the
previous child (meaning Antonio and Claudina did the deed right after Rosa
was born...After hours of labor and giving birth her husband wanted
that?!?!?)
I'm so glad you found him, JR - I'll have to see if I can find him in the
passports now and track him to New Bedford that way. The address Antonio
and Claudina listed for Francisco in 1902 didn't seem to exist in the 1905
directory, so I'm going to have to see if I can figure out which
Of course the baptism date for Francisco should be 1859.
JR
On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 2:18:48 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> Oh but there is. The pattern of births for this couple is more unusual
> than most. Here is Francisco, who must have went on to marry because there
> is certificate for
Oh but there is. The pattern of births for this couple is more unusual than
most. Here is Francisco, who must have went on to marry because there is
certificate for him in 1895. I will send the rest to your email address.
JR
>
> hi Cheri,
>
I saw that marriages and deaths were listed in the back of the
directory, so I'll take a closer look. Interesting on the siblings for
Claudina - interesting that there isn't a Francisco - or he really wasn't a
brother, and they just said that when they got to New York.
Thanks JR, but I'm not related to Claudina. Shirley might want them though.
Cheri Mello
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On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:05 AM JR wrote:
> I have a couple more siblings for
I have a couple more siblings for Claudina da Silva. Do you want me to send
them?
JR
On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 9:25:17 PM UTC-5, Elaine Mello wrote:
>
> It's always the computer's fault!
>
> Do you have any record of Claudina Silva's siblings? I know they
> immigrated to stay with her
Hi Elaine,
I don't even have Claudina's date of birth. I have her dad b. 28 Jan 1832
(bapt 5 Feb) in RQ. I have her mom born as c. 1817. Maybe that
approximation came from the marriage?
I have only 2 siblings for Claudina.
1) Maria (marries as Maria de Jesus Silva) b. 26 Dec 1855 RQ and bapt on
Elaine M,
The 1905 (and a few years before and after) New Bedford City Directories
has who married the year before and who owns cars. Maybe something else.
It's in the back of the directory.
I'll check later and see if I have anything on Claudina Silva. I don't
think so, as I think I'm related
It's always the computer's fault!
Do you have any record of Claudina Silva's siblings? I know they
immigrated to stay with her brother Francisco, but I haven't found out much
else other than that. I may have to just scanning all of the birth records
and see who else I can find, but it can
I've corrected that, thanks. Amusingly my my program said do you want to
merge these individuals...what, what do you mean... shut up computer, I am
the boss and never make mistakes;)
JR
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 7:43:05 PM UTC-5, Elaine Mello wrote:
>
>
>
> JR - Virginia is Maria Lima
Hi Elaine,
I did find one record but JR posted it this morning and he had 2 more kids.
The first Manuel died before the 2nd was born. Yes, a family can have 2
(or more) Marias all alive. Typically, the oldest went by Maria and the
other(s) went by their middle (usually religious) name.
The
JR - Virginia is Maria Lima (Antonio's cousin and wife)'s sister:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899_item1/P79.html
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Thank you both - I find it strange that there are two Manuels and two
Marias, unless the older ones died before the second one was born.
Virginia and Francisco are new ones to me as well. Looking at the
emigration documents, it was the older Maria who came over in 1902 and the
second Manuel,
Thank you both - I find it strange that there are two Manuels and two
Marias, unless the older ones died before the second one was born.
Virginia and Francisco are new ones to me as well. Looking at the
emigration documents, it was the older Maria who came over in 1902 and the
second Manoel,
Here is what I have:
JR
*Descendants of Antonio de Melo Barbosa*
*Generation No. 1*
*1.* ANTONIO DE MELO BARBOSA was born Abt. 1858 in Sao Paulo de Ribeira
Quente. He married CLAUDINA DE JESUS DA SILVA 16 Jul 1884 in Sao Paulo de
Ribeira Quente, daughter of JOAO SILVA and
They registered to leave 3 April 1902. Unless they went twice. The link I
gave you is 1902.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:34 PM Elaine Mello wrote:
> thanks, Cheri
thanks, Cheri -
I looked at the immigration papers from Ellis Island and he is listed as
having no years -it looks like whomever was writing down the information
got the lines out of sync because it says laborer off to the right and I
thought it was a different person, but it does look like he
Elaine,
I have your grandfather as one of 8 (that I know about).
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Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:27 PM Cheri Mello wrote:
> OK, I had him. I
OK, I had him. I have the emigration out of the Azores too:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P113.html
Middle of the page, passport # 534
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila
I just got a DNA link to a second cousin on Ancestry whose grandfather was
a John De Mello Barboza born in 1900 who immigrated to New Bedford in
1901. I found the naturalization form for this Joao, and in looking in the
tembo.pt records, I think I've found a sibling to my grandfather who was
I believe his last name is “ da Rosa Cabelleira”. The parents were married in
New Bedford.
Hope that helps,
:)
Linda
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Please can anyone help with Record no.2 page on left. Not sure of father’s last
name Manuel Pereira da Rosa Cab? It appears he came from Pico.
Also not understanding the reference to New Bedford for Maria, the mother, who
I thought was born in Ponta Delgada.
Does anyone have more
for Francisco here is the link: right side of page
It appears he was born Oct 4, 1822. Padrinho: is it Antonio Tiberio or
Riberio?
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1821-1825/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1821-1825_item1/P101.html
for Jacinto - left side of page:
Joseph de Mattos fo Simam de Ponte and Barbara de Sousa married Maria de
Amaral va Joam da Costa Furtado 28 Jun 1736. Does it state Joam da Costa's
Furtado's village? I see NS do Rosario mentioned. Right side.
On 23 Nov 1596 Domingos Jorge married Agada Rois. Domnigos parents Jorge
Alves? and Felipa Gtz? Agada's parents Felipo Rois and Francisca Pires? I
think it states they are living in this Villa. Cannot understand what is
says after that. Sencond entry on right side.
I think the padrinho is Reverend Antonio Gomes Tavares. Is he the son of
the Manoel da Costa Branquinho that is mentioned? Top left.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1728-1740/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1728-1740_item1/P94.html
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Maria. Her parents are not mentioned. Only her husband. I don't see any
Antonio da Silva. I have no idea where you are seeing "donzela." I don't
think that's a Portuguese word.
Cheri Mello
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On
Sorry Cheri, I meant top left. Doesn't "donzela" mean a maiden girl?
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Maria. Her parents are not mentioned. Only her husband. I don't see any
> Antonio da Silva. I have no idea where you are seeing "donzela." I don't
>
Maria or Manoel? fa? Manoel Pereira Seixas (deceased)? mentions "donzela"
and Antonio da Silva. Top right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754_item1/P68.html
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Manoel Furtado Seixas and Maria Pereira. The child's name is Maria. Is
this an adopted child?
Bottom right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1714-1728/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1714-1728_item1/P70.html
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The child of eight days baptized March 7? 1659 son of one of the slaves by
the name of Maria of (belonging to) Barbara of Sao Goncalo (S. Goncalo is
the name of the area/place in S. Pedro) The Godfather was Sebastiao do Rego
son of Francisco Martins
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Sandra Perez
Thank you so much.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Margaret Vicente
wrote:
> The child of eight days baptized March 7? 1659 son of one of the slaves by
> the name of Maria of (belonging to) Barbara of Sao Goncalo (S. Goncalo is
> the name of the area/place in
I'd guess the 7th too.
Slaves don't seem very common to me. Most of the population seemed to be
poor back then. Others who know the history better should probably start a
new thread and discuss that question there, as we are veering off topic
here from this translation.
Cheri
Cheri Mello
Wonderful! thanks :)
On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 4:28:30 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
> The child of eight days baptized March 7? 1659 son of one of the slaves by
> the name of Maria of (belonging to) Barbara of Sao Goncalo (S. Goncalo is
> the name of the area/place in S. Pedro) The
Sebastiao's birth--bottom right. I think I see Goncalo Frz or Joao Goncalo
Frz and maybe Barbara.
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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1643-1667/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1643-1667_item1/P90.html
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