[AZORES-Genealogy] translation

[Mike]

I'm not very good at finding anything but I'm pretty sure this is my 
GGGgrandfather's obituary Jose Leal da Rosa It should say Jan 16, 1899

The first link it's on the bottom of page then next page it carries to the 
top of next page. I'm really hoping after all this time I found one on my 
own.
Thank You so much Mike
Piedade, Pico,  Cedros Fayal

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-O-1890-1899/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-O-1890-1899_item1/P157.html

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-O-1890-1899/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-O-1890-1899_item1/P158.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Mike,

You have the name and date correct. (I double checked what I read here against 
CITCEM.) Is the date what you were questioning ?

I noticed that, according to CITCEM, Jose died 3 days shy of his 93rd birthday. 
That was a long life in the 1890s. 

Gayle



> On Sep 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Mike  wrote:
> 
> I'm not very good at finding anything but I'm pretty sure this is my 
> GGGgrandfather's obituary Jose Leal da Rosa It should say Jan 16, 1899
> 
> The first link it's on the bottom of page then next page it carries to the 
> top of next page. I'm really hoping after all this time I found one on my own.
> Thank You so much Mike
> Piedade, Pico,  Cedros Fayal
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-O-1890-1899/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-O-1890-1899_item1/P157.html
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-O-1890-1899/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-O-1890-1899_item1/P158.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help

[Cheri Mello]

India in Portuguese translates to India. As to whom, it depends on what was
said in the document. Don't want to take a wild guess and mislead you. Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help

["E" Sharp]

Thanks, Cheri.  It is him.  I just found another record and it says he is
from Bombay, India. But he has an English last name???

"E"

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> India in Portuguese translates to India. As to whom, it depends on what
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help

["E" Sharp]

What does "a quelle natural da India" translate to?  Both from India?? She
is from India??

Thanks, "E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism - Exorcism

["E" Sharp]

If a woman was molested and became pregnant, would the priest perform an
Exorcism during Baptism?

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help

[linda]

Hi "E"

How interesting! can you post a link to the record? 

As India was a British colony, it's very possible that someone with an 
English surname could have been born there and ended up in the Azores.  
Goa, now part of the India, was originally a Portuguese colony.  And, 
Bombay (now Mumbai) is about 400 miles from Goa.

I'd really like to see the record, if possible.  Thanks!

Linda

On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:47:50 AM UTC-7, "E" Sharp wrote:
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> Thanks, Cheri.  It is him.  I just found another record and it says he is 
> from Bombay, India. But he has an English last name???
>
> "E"
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
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>> Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism - Exorcism

["E" Sharp]

Thank you, Mary.  I need to read up on baptisms.

"E"

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:

> The rite of baptism includes and exorcism. But I have not seen it
> specifically noted in the records!
>
> Mary
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> On Thursday, September 29, 2016, "E" Sharp  wrote:
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>> If a woman was molested and became pregnant, would the priest perform an
>> Exorcism during Baptism?
>>
>> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism - Exorcism

[Mary Bordi]

The rite of baptism includes and exorcism. But I have not seen it
specifically noted in the records!

Mary

On Thursday, September 29, 2016, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> If a woman was molested and became pregnant, would the priest perform an
> Exorcism during Baptism?
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism - Exorcism

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

>From the Catechism of the Catholic Church # 1237: Since Baptism signifies 
>liberation from sin and from its instigator the devil, one or more exorcisms 
>are pronounced over the candidate.  The Celebrant then anoints him/her with 
>the oil of the catechumens, or lays his hands on him, and he explicitly 
>renounces Satin. Thus  prepared, he is able to confess the faith of the 
>church, to which he will be entrusted by Baptism.

 

In the case of an infant Baptism the God Parent/s speak for the infant. 

 

Rick

 

 

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Thank you, Mary.  I need to read up on baptisms.

 

"E"

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:

The rite of baptism includes and exorcism. But I have not seen it specifically 
noted in the records!

 

Mary

On Thursday, September 29, 2016, "E" Sharp  wrote:

If a woman was molested and became pregnant, would the priest perform an 
Exorcism during Baptism?  

 

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism - Exorcism

["E" Sharp]

Thank you, Rick, for the info.

I was just back your way a couple of weeks ago and the weather was
beautiful!!  Also loved your Beach Plum restaurant and their huge rum
raisin ice cream cones (my favorite - which I had twice)!!  Also, some
other pizza restaurant in the area that had the hugest prime rib I had ever
seen in my life!  No I did not eat one of those.

"E"

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