Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Romeiro Velho
Hi John, Thanks for you help. Would you please check the index o Rodrigo Rodrigues' books to see if there is any Manuel da Costa Cabral. Best regards, Decio Medeiros Em 09/11/2014, às 20:01, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com escreveu: Dear Mr. Medeiros: The source is Rodrigo Rodrigues: CAPÍTULO 33.º: DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FERNÃO VELHO: § 8.º N.º6. No other spouse is mentioned, only the one wife and one child. I hope this helps. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. John Miranda Raposo On Sunday, November 9, 2014 1:04 PM, Decio Medeiros via Gmail deciomedei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John Miranda Raposo, Search the internet I found this message: https://www.mail-archive.com/azores@googlegroups.com/msg05202.html In this old message, dated 14 jan 2010, you mentioned: * Manuel Romeiro Velho, capt., married to Maria Velho de Melo. Would you please check your source (I think is Rodrigo Rodrigues) to see if there is a second marriage for this Manuel Romeiro Velho. If positive, please inform the name of his second wife and their children. Best regards, Decio Medeiros Sao Paulo, Brasil P.S.: My interest is to discover the ancestors of Manoel da Costa Cabral, which may be (or not) a son of this Manuel Romeiro Velho. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911
Good morning Tish and Carolyn, The ship manifests from Brazil that you find on Family Search database are *only* from *Bahia (1855 – 1964) and São Paulo (1960 – 1982).* These records are only images, no indexing until the moment. So if you fit those dates, for those two places, you need to open one by one and read them to find your ancestor. The ship manifests from Rio de Janeiro are digitized but they are not on Family Search database. You will have to search on the National Archives from Brazil to find the one you are looking for. Links for those databases are on my blog, under *Researching in Brazil*, I cut and pasted below: *http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/p/researching-in-brazil_4.html http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/p/researching-in-brazil_4.html* The first link you will find when you open the link above is the one for the Family Search database, in Brazil. You will need to scroll this page, at Family Search, in order to find the appropriate link to what you are looking for. There are several different links for different states. Going back to *My Portuguese Gen *link, above, I added, on this same link/page, web addresses to: *Rio de Janeiro state*, including a List of steamers and passengers manifests that arrived in* Rio de Janeiro Port between 1805 – 1921. *This is a partial database, constantly updated by the Brazilian National Archives, they are not indexed, they are images in a pdf format. You need to have at least a timeframe to research because this is a huge database with thousands of names. and to *São Paulo State* where I include links to the museum of immigration database, with ships lists, hospedarias and photos. I try to simplify the search as much as possible separating them by state and I display specific links for what you can research on those databases. If you have any other questions related, please let me know. I may take a few days to answer, but I will answer, just too busy at work. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:24:24 PM UTC-5, sfig wrote: Hi group, I must have gotten in the middle of this posting. Can someone post the link to the manifests? Tish On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Carolyn M carolyn...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Roberto, Thank you for that information. It would be very helpful to me if I could find out the name of the ship that Vitorino and his family took to Brazil in October 1911. I would think there would be a database somewhere of ships and their routes with dates included. But could I search on these data bases that you suggested by a specific date, since I know that already? Carolyn On Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:53:34 AM UTC-5, Roberto Machado Velho wrote: I would like to add some information on the answer of Isabella Baltar. The archives in Brazil are still being indexed. But I tried some times read the list by myself on a specific boat and use the search function based on names. Archives newer than 1896 or around looked to be indexed. They are indexing it backwards. But given lot of names were written in the wrong form on arrival, the name in the index might not be the name you are looking for. Extra information. You must search the databases separately on port, Rio de Janeiro, Santos (state of Sao Paulo), Recife, Salvador (Bahia) - I believe these were the main ports to arrive. By the year you are referring to, there were still portugueses earning lands on south of Brazil (today Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul). Independent of them moving to the south of Brazil, it was mandatory to stop in the ports (Rio or Santos) and register and then move to the South (I don' t know if this is your case). If you imagine your family moved to the south of Brazil, let me know. I have been in Porto Alegre some months ago and I could get the registers of the portuguese families that got land there from 1876 on (mainly Azoreans). None of such archives are in digital form and they are getting destroyed in bad storage conditions. I am still trying to organize what I could get. Good luck, Roberto Velho. On Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:32:37 PM UTC+3, Carolyn M wrote: I would like to know if anyone knows of any online records of ships manifests leaving Porto, Portugal to Brazil? My great-uncle left Porto bound for Brazil on or around October 1911, but I don't know the name of the ship. I also posted this to the Portuguese Genealogy Board, but I'm not sure it ever got through. This is my first post, and I want to thank you all for being here! Any information regarding the manifest would be greatly appreciated. Carolyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911
Isabella, Thank you so much for your response. I know you mentioned these sites before, but at that time I had no leads. I now how a Isabella folder! Thanks again, Tish On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning Tish and Carolyn, The ship manifests from Brazil that you find on Family Search database are *only* from *Bahia (1855 – 1964) and São Paulo (1960 – 1982).* These records are only images, no indexing until the moment. So if you fit those dates, for those two places, you need to open one by one and read them to find your ancestor. The ship manifests from Rio de Janeiro are digitized but they are not on Family Search database. You will have to search on the National Archives from Brazil to find the one you are looking for. Links for those databases are on my blog, under *Researching in Brazil*, I cut and pasted below: *http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/p/researching-in-brazil_4.html http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/p/researching-in-brazil_4.html* The first link you will find when you open the link above is the one for the Family Search database, in Brazil. You will need to scroll this page, at Family Search, in order to find the appropriate link to what you are looking for. There are several different links for different states. Going back to *My Portuguese Gen *link, above, I added, on this same link/page, web addresses to: *Rio de Janeiro state*, including a List of steamers and passengers manifests that arrived in* Rio de Janeiro Port between 1805 – 1921. *This is a partial database, constantly updated by the Brazilian National Archives, they are not indexed, they are images in a pdf format. You need to have at least a timeframe to research because this is a huge database with thousands of names. and to *São Paulo State* where I include links to the museum of immigration database, with ships lists, hospedarias and photos. I try to simplify the search as much as possible separating them by state and I display specific links for what you can research on those databases. If you have any other questions related, please let me know. I may take a few days to answer, but I will answer, just too busy at work. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:24:24 PM UTC-5, sfig wrote: Hi group, I must have gotten in the middle of this posting. Can someone post the link to the manifests? Tish On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Carolyn M carolyn...@gmail.com wrote: Roberto, Thank you for that information. It would be very helpful to me if I could find out the name of the ship that Vitorino and his family took to Brazil in October 1911. I would think there would be a database somewhere of ships and their routes with dates included. But could I search on these data bases that you suggested by a specific date, since I know that already? Carolyn On Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:53:34 AM UTC-5, Roberto Machado Velho wrote: I would like to add some information on the answer of Isabella Baltar. The archives in Brazil are still being indexed. But I tried some times read the list by myself on a specific boat and use the search function based on names. Archives newer than 1896 or around looked to be indexed. They are indexing it backwards. But given lot of names were written in the wrong form on arrival, the name in the index might not be the name you are looking for. Extra information. You must search the databases separately on port, Rio de Janeiro, Santos (state of Sao Paulo), Recife, Salvador (Bahia) - I believe these were the main ports to arrive. By the year you are referring to, there were still portugueses earning lands on south of Brazil (today Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul). Independent of them moving to the south of Brazil, it was mandatory to stop in the ports (Rio or Santos) and register and then move to the South (I don' t know if this is your case). If you imagine your family moved to the south of Brazil, let me know. I have been in Porto Alegre some months ago and I could get the registers of the portuguese families that got land there from 1876 on (mainly Azoreans). None of such archives are in digital form and they are getting destroyed in bad storage conditions. I am still trying to organize what I could get. Good luck, Roberto Velho. On Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:32:37 PM UTC+3, Carolyn M wrote: I would like to know if anyone knows of any online records of ships manifests leaving Porto, Portugal to Brazil? My great-uncle left Porto bound for Brazil on or around October 1911, but I don't know the name of the ship. I also posted this to the Portuguese Genealogy Board, but I'm not sure it ever got through. This is my first post, and I want to thank you all for being here! Any information regarding the manifest would be greatly appreciated. Carolyn -- For options, such as
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao son of Jose da Roza Jorge
Hi Sam, I can make out a bit of it Joao, son of Jose da Roza Jorge and Maria de Jesusborn, 5-15-1832 paternal grandparents: Manuel da Roza Jorge and Catherina Rosa Maternal grandfather, incognito and Maria ? Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao son of Jose da Roza Jorge Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 02:17:59 + www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860_item1/P20.html Hi again, group; I was advised to put the link in the body of the email so, here you go. Top, left side. Need help translating. Thanks, Sam in Camas, WA Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao son of Jose da Roza Jorge
Sam, These marriages records from the Casais de Flores e Corvo book may help with the translation. The Joao here is the son from the second marriage to Maria de Jesus from Nossa Senhora do Rosário LAJES DAS FLORES José da Rosa Jorge [n. Salão, Horta, f.º de Manuel da Rosa Jorge e de Catarina Maria da Silveira] c. 1811.09.24 c. Ana Furtado [f.ª de Domingos Rodrigues e de Maria Furtado]. * José da Rosa Jorge [n. Salão, Horta, f.º de Manuel da Rosa Jorge e de Catarina Maria da Silveira, e já v.º de Ana Furtada, f.ª de Domingos Rodrigues e de Maria Furtado] c. 1825.04.16 c. Maria de Jesus [f.ª de pai incógnito e de Maria Lourenço]. This appears to be Joao's marriage record from Paróquia de Nossa Senhora dos Milagres LAJEDO João José Jorge [f.º de José da Rosa Jorge e de Maria de Jesus] c. 1855.06.14 c. Mariana de Jesus [f.ª de José Luís Velho e de Ana de Jesus]. Eric Edgar On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:17 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860_item1/P20.html Hi again, group; I was advised to put the link in the body of the email so, here you go. Top, left side. Need help translating. Thanks, Sam in Camas, WA Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao son of Jose da Roza Jorge
Sam this is what it looks like to me: Joao (Jose da Rosa Jorge X Maria de Jesus) natives Nossa Senhora do Rosario _ PATERNAL Manoel? da Rosa Jorge X Catharina Rosa MATERNAL Avo incognito X Maria Francisca? DOB 15 May 1832 BAPT 16 May 1832 GODPARENTS Joao Roiz (Rodrigues?) Serpa X Rita de Fros? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: aportugee via Azores Genealogy To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 6:17 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao son of Jose da Roza Jorge www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860_item1/P20.html Hi again, group; I was advised to put the link in the body of the email so, here you go. Top, left side. Need help translating. Thanks, Sam in Camas, WA Sam Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao son of Jose da Roza Jorge
Hi Nancy Jean; Thanks for tackling this one for me! It is my ancestor’s brother. Haven’t been able to locate my Francisco Jose da Silveira son of Jose da Roza Jorge and Maria de Jesus yet but; did find the birth of his son and several of his siblings! That writing is very hard to decipher! This is the first time I’ve run into an ‘incognito’. Guess that’s the end of the ancestors for that line! If anyone can read Maria’s surname it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again Nancy Jean! Sam in Camas, WA Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:13 AM To: azores group Hi Sam, I can make out a bit of it Joao, son of Jose da Roza Jorge and Maria de Jesusborn, 5-15-1832 paternal grandparents: Manuel da Roza Jorge and Catherina Rosa Maternal grandfather, incognito and Maria ? Nancy Jean www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860/FLR-LF-LAGEDO-B-1826-1860_item1/P20.html Top, left side. Need help translating. Thanks, Sam in Camas, WA -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao son of Jose da Roza Jorge
Shirley Eric (Luiznoia); Thank you so much for your help. Your added info. helps greatly! This is such a great group! Now, if I can just find my Francisco’s birth! Sam in Camas, WA -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Found Antonio da Rocha and Rosa da Estrella Boteilho's marriage, 1777, Estrella
Thank you for locating this record, JR. It adds Francisco da Rocha and Maria Correia of Maia and Pascoal Pacheco Janeiro and Antonia Tavares of Estrella to my tree. I will have to see how far this Rocha line spreads out in Maia. On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:57:02 PM UTC-8, JR wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751_item1/P119.html Manoel da Rocha and Maria Pacheco -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Romeiro Velho
This is all I could find; I hope it helps. John Miranda Raposo 19) António Marcondes do Amaral, Capitão (§ 9.º N.º 8) Na obra “Genealogia Paulistana”, de Luís Gonzaga da Silva Leme, Vol.º VII, pág. 360, se diz que o “Capitão António Marcondes (sic) do Amaral, natural da Ilha de S. Miguel, Açores, filho de Dionísio Marcondes, natural de Veneza, que passou a morar na dita Ilha de S. Miguel, e de Maria Vieira, da dita Ilha, casou em 1741 em Pindamonhangaba com Maria Madalena, da família dos Costas Cabrais, de que foi tronco Manuel da Costa Cabral, também natural da Ilha de S. Miguel, tio de Gaspar da Costa Columbreiro, a quem foi passado Brazão de Armas em 1709, registado em 1762 na Câmara de S. Paulo”. Diz a mesma obra, locasou Citestamento, que o capitão António Marcondes do Amaral, comandando a sumaca “S. Boaventura”, em viagem do Rio de Janeiro para o Sul, naufragou a 7.3.1738, dando à costa nas praias do Bujuru, doze léguas a Norte da barra do Rio Grande do Sul; daqui veio por terra a S. Paulo e casou-se em Pindamonhangaba, como fica dito. Teve da primeira mulher sete filhos, que constam do seu inventário feito m 1786, existente no Cartório dos Órfãos daquela cidade. Todos os seus numerosos descendentes usam o apelido Marcondes, e não Marcone, que é como está escrito o nome do pai Dionísio Marcone no registo paroquial da Achadinha Contudo, no Livro da Alfândega de Ponta Delgada de 1727 a 1812, a folhas 65, está uma sentença de 9.1.1732 a favor de Nicolau Maria Caneva contra Dionísio Marcondes (sic). On Monday, November 10, 2014 9:30 AM, 'Decio Medeiros' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hi John, Thanks for you help. Would you please check the index o Rodrigo Rodrigues' books to see if there is any Manuel da Costa Cabral. Best regards, Decio Medeiros Em 09/11/2014, às 20:01, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com escreveu: Dear Mr. Medeiros: The source is Rodrigo Rodrigues: CAPÍTULO 33.º: DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FERNÃO VELHO: § 8.º N.º6. No other spouse is mentioned, only the one wife and one child. I hope this helps. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. John Miranda Raposo On Sunday, November 9, 2014 1:04 PM, Decio Medeiros via Gmail deciomedei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John Miranda Raposo, Search the internet I found this message: https://www.mail-archive.com/azores@googlegroups.com/msg05202.html In this old message, dated 14 jan 2010, you mentioned: * Manuel Romeiro Velho, capt., married to Maria Velho de Melo. Would you please check your source (I think is Rodrigo Rodrigues) to see if there is a second marriage for this Manuel Romeiro Velho. If positive, please inform the name of his second wife and their children. Best regards, Decio Medeiros Sao Paulo, Brasil P.S.: My interest is to discover the ancestors of Manoel da Costa Cabral, which may be (or not) a son of this Manuel Romeiro Velho. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Found Antonio da Rocha and Rosa da Estrella Boteilho's marriage, 1777, Estrella
I sent the rest earlier, hope you got it. I did a lot of work in Maia over the years. JR On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:57:13 PM UTC-5, IslandRoutes wrote: Thank you for locating this record, JR. It adds Francisco da Rocha and Maria Correia of Maia and Pascoal Pacheco Janeiro and Antonia Tavares of Estrella to my tree. I will have to see how far this Rocha line spreads out in Maia. On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:57:02 PM UTC-8, JR wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751_item1/P119.html Manoel da Rocha and Maria Pacheco -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Romeiro Velho
Decio and John Sorry for butting in but I just happen to have three Manuel da Costa Cabral in my file and maybe one of them is the one in question (No. 1 seems to want to fit). 1. Manuel da Costa Cabral son of Manuel Romeiro Velho and N. da Costa (b abt 1610 d. 3 April 1659) m. Francisca Cardoso, daughter of Gaspar Vaz Guedes and Francusca Cardoso (in Brasil) 2. Manuel da Costa Cabral, son of No. 1, m. Ana Ribeiro de Alvarenga , daughter of Francisco Bicudo de Brito and Tomasia Ribeiro de Alvarenga (in Brasil) 3. Manuel da Costa Cabral, son of Amaro da Costa and Maria Cabral m. 17 September 1726, N. S. da Estrela Ribeira Grande, Maria do Rego Bladaia daughter of Sebastiao do Rego Baldaia and Maria Francisca Lopes (found on page 395 of Vl I, Genealogias de S. Miguel e de Santa Maria of Rodrigo Rodrigues). to my knowledge this couple had at least three children: Maria, Antonio and Manuel. I don't have much more than is above. Hope that helps. Hermano Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:32:59 -0800 From: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Romeiro Velho To: azores@googlegroups.com This is all I could find; I hope it helps. John Miranda Raposo 19) António Marcondes do Amaral, Capitão (§ 9.º N.º 8) Na obra “Genealogia Paulistana”, de Luís Gonzaga da Silva Leme, Vol.º VII, pág. 360, se diz que o “Capitão António Marcondes (sic) do Amaral, natural da Ilha de S. Miguel, Açores, filho de Dionísio Marcondes, natural de Veneza, que passou a morar na dita Ilha de S. Miguel, e de Maria Vieira, da dita Ilha, casou em 1741 em Pindamonhangaba com Maria Madalena, da família dos Costas Cabrais, de que foi tronco Manuel da Costa Cabral, também natural da Ilha de S. Miguel, tio de Gaspar da Costa Columbreiro, a quem foi passado Brazão de Armas em 1709, registado em 1762 na Câmara de S. Paulo”. Diz a mesma obra, locasou Citestamento, que o capitão António Marcondes do Amaral, comandando a sumaca “S. Boaventura”, em viagem do Rio de Janeiro para o Sul, naufragou a 7.3.1738, dando à costa nas praias do Bujuru, doze léguas a Norte da barra do Rio Grande do Sul; daqui veio por terra a S. Paulo e casou-se em Pindamonhangaba, como fica dito. Teve da primeira mulher sete filhos, que constam do seu inventário feito m 1786, existente no Cartório dos Órfãos daquela cidade. Todos os seus numerosos descendentes usam o apelido Marcondes, e não Marcone, que é como está escrito o nome do pai Dionísio Marcone no registo paroquial da Achadinha Contudo, no Livro da Alfândega de Ponta Delgada de 1727 a 1812, a folhas 65, está uma sentença de 9.1.1732 a favor de Nicolau Maria Caneva contra Dionísio Marcondes (sic). On Monday, November 10, 2014 9:30 AM, 'Decio Medeiros' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hi John,Thanks for you help.Would you please check the index o Rodrigo Rodrigues' books to see if there is any Manuel da Costa Cabral.Best regards,Decio MedeirosEm 09/11/2014, às 20:01, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com escreveu:Dear Mr. Medeiros:The source is Rodrigo Rodrigues: CAPÍTULO 33.º: DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FERNÃO VELHO: § 8.º N.º6.No other spouse is mentioned, only the one wife and one child. I hope this helps. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.John Miranda Raposo On Sunday, November 9, 2014 1:04 PM, Decio Medeiros via Gmail deciomedei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John Miranda Raposo,Search the internet I found this message:https://www.mail-archive.com/azores@googlegroups.com/msg05202.htmlIn this old message, dated 14 jan 2010, you mentioned:* Manuel Romeiro Velho, capt., married to Maria Velho de Melo.Would you please check your source (I think is Rodrigo Rodrigues) to see ifthere is a second marriage for this Manuel Romeiro Velho.If positive, please inform the name of his second wife and their children.Best regards,Decio MedeirosSao Paulo, BrasilP.S.: My interest is to discover the ancestors of Manoel da Costa Cabral,which may be (or not) a son of this Manuel Romeiro Velho.-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
