Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Web

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Wow, not a good thing.

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On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Diane George 
wrote:

> A Heads Up!
>
>
>
> The Azores Genealogy Resources site at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.
> com/~azrwgw is down. Ancestry took the Rootsweb site down to work on it.
> There is more information in the blog post link at the end of the message
> that appears when you go to the site.
>
>
>
> *Rootsweb is currently unavailable*
>
> Rootsweb is currently unavailable. We have been in the process of
> improving the site throughout 2017, and as a result of an issue we recently
> became aware of, we have taken the site offline while we work to resolve it.
>
> We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, but protecting our
> users’ personal information is our top priority. During this down time, we
> are working to preserve all data saved to Rootsweb, and hope to have an
> update within a few weeks.
>
> If you would like to learn more, please visit our blog post.
> 
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> Diane George
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in dating of photograph sought

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Tony, I have a book about women and children's clothing and from the
pictures used, I would say 1879--1882 time frame.
For those interested, the book is called *Victorian Fshions for ...* by
Linda Setnik. Some really nice pictures used for the examples.

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On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Azores Genealogy group <
tony_amar...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Seasons Greetings to all.
>
> I'm looking to date a photograph that has recently been re-discovered
> amongst a collection of bits and pieces. I have my suspensions but do not
> want to give anything away at the moment as I do not want to influence any
> analysis.
>
> Anyone up for the challenge?
>
> Cheers Tony
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Web

[Diane George]

A Heads Up!

The Azores Genealogy Resources site at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw 
is down. Ancestry took the Rootsweb site down to work on it. There is more 
information in the blog post link at the end of the message that appears when 
you go to the site.

Rootsweb is currently unavailable

Rootsweb is currently unavailable. We have been in the process of improving the 
site throughout 2017, and as a result of an issue we recently became aware of, 
we have taken the site offline while we work to resolve it.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, but protecting our users' 
personal information is our top priority. During this down time, we are working 
to preserve all data saved to Rootsweb, and hope to have an update within a few 
weeks.

If you would like to learn more, please visit our blog 
post.


Diane George

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topo Death Index

[':' via Azores Genealogy]

Obrigada to Kathy and Sandra!  You do so much to help all of us!  Thank you!
Marie Pleasant




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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topo Death Index


You’re very welcome, Rosemarie!


Kathy


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On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:



Thanks,Kathy for posting and Suzanne for doing the wor, of indexing! 








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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

I have added a new file to the Azores GenWeb. It is an index for Topo, Sao 
Jorge death records that, at this time, covers the years 1633 - 1673. These 
were extracted and shared with all of us by Suzanne Edvalson. The index is 
here:  
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/sao-jorge/topo-death-indexes/



Kathy Cardoza
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in dating of photograph sought

[Maria Lima]

Wow- look at workmanship and material of those dresses.  Shoes look “expensive” 
z. Nice photo.  I hope you find out who you hey were.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2017, at 4:53 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> I'd say late 19th century.  It looks like a classic photo studio portrait.  I 
> can generally date these pictures to within a decade (e.g., "1890's") by 
> hair, dress and shoe styles. But those traits in this picture aren't familiar 
> to me. That leads me to suspect the photo was not taken in the US, and I'd 
> further guess the family had means.
> 
> How'd I do? :)
> 
> What kind of photo is it, and what size? That info can help with dating too.
> Linda
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Persistence pays off

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Wow, Richard, that is good detective work! It pays to get the info on
others with a similar name because the Priests did make mistakes! Good
hunting!


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On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:

> *My project of compiling marriages from Santissimo Salvador is progressing
> I am now up to 1902 with 3 more years to go.*
>
>
>
> *Because I am entering the information into a genealogy program it is
> taking more time than I originally anticipated. I started working on this
> project 20 years ago.*
>
>
>
> *Things take time and I try to be accurate. Yesterday I was entering a
> marriage. The bride was Maria Julia Cabral. Her parents were Francisco
> Cabral de Mello and Maria Jose Pacheco.  I found her parents easily in my
> data base and proceeded to add her. *
>
>
>
> *When I looked at her age I computed her birth date as born before 7 Jul
> 1881. But wait I already had a sister Maria da Conceicao with a birth date
> of 20 March 1881. Something is wrong here I have two Marias with birthdates
> in the same gestation period.*
>
>
>
> *I recheck both marriages and the Parents names are exactly the same I
> spend the next several hours looking for the birth of another Maria
> including checking names in other girls born in the time. The only thing I
> learned is that the birth record of Maria da Conceicao said first of the
> name. So if the parents had another Maria the birthdate would be after the
> first Maria in other words, start looking 9 months after 20 March 1881. But
> the problem is Maria Julia Cabral age on her marriage date of 7 July 1902
> is 21. I came to the conclusion that one of these Marias had the wrong
> parents names entered in the records. The question is which one and who
> were the other set of parents.*
>
>
>
> *The solution I employed was to look for births of children from the two
> Marias and see if the grandparents names were the same or different. *
>
>
>
> *I started with Maria Julia Cabral. A year and a half after her marriage
> she had a son and the grand parents were the same as her parents in her
> marriage record. Also the sons name was Simao the same name as a brother
> with her parent’s names.*
>
>
>
> *Next I looked after the marriage of Maria da Conceicao and about a year
> after her marriage she had a son. Her parents names were given as Francisco
> Cabral and Maria de Jesus Silva as compared to Maria Julia Cabral parents
> names of Francisco Cabral de Mello and Maria Jose Pacheco. *
>
>
>
> *To tie this all up I looked for the baptism of Maria da Conceicao with
> these new parents names and found a record on 19 Apr 1880 with the parent’s
> names of Francisco Cabral and Maria de Jesus. Her maternal grandfather’s
> name was Manual da Silva. The icing on this cake was a margin note giving
> information on her marriage with her husband down to the date and record
> number. Case solved. Names were close but the families were different. The
> birth date I had for Maria da Conceicao was actually the on for Maria Julia
> Cabral The error in the marriage records was the priest wrote the wrong
> parents names for Maria da Conceicao.*
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Persistence pays off

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

My project of compiling marriages from Santissimo Salvador is progressing I
am now up to 1902 with 3 more years to go.

 

Because I am entering the information into a genealogy program it is taking
more time than I originally anticipated. I started working on this project
20 years ago.

 

Things take time and I try to be accurate. Yesterday I was entering a
marriage. The bride was Maria Julia Cabral. Her parents were Francisco
Cabral de Mello and Maria Jose Pacheco.  I found her parents easily in my
data base and proceeded to add her. 

 

When I looked at her age I computed her birth date as born before 7 Jul
1881. But wait I already had a sister Maria da Conceicao with a birth date
of 20 March 1881. Something is wrong here I have two Marias with birthdates
in the same gestation period.

 

I recheck both marriages and the Parents names are exactly the same I spend
the next several hours looking for the birth of another Maria including
checking names in other girls born in the time. The only thing I learned is
that the birth record of Maria da Conceicao said first of the name. So if
the parents had another Maria the birthdate would be after the first Maria
in other words, start looking 9 months after 20 March 1881. But the problem
is Maria Julia Cabral age on her marriage date of 7 July 1902 is 21. I came
to the conclusion that one of these Marias had the wrong parents names
entered in the records. The question is which one and who were the other set
of parents.

 

The solution I employed was to look for births of children from the two
Marias and see if the grandparents names were the same or different. 

 

I started with Maria Julia Cabral. A year and a half after her marriage she
had a son and the grand parents were the same as her parents in her marriage
record. Also the sons name was Simao the same name as a brother with her
parent's names.

 

Next I looked after the marriage of Maria da Conceicao and about a year
after her marriage she had a son. Her parents names were given as Francisco
Cabral and Maria de Jesus Silva as compared to Maria Julia Cabral parents
names of Francisco Cabral de Mello and Maria Jose Pacheco. 

 

To tie this all up I looked for the baptism of Maria da Conceicao with these
new parents names and found a record on 19 Apr 1880 with the parent's names
of Francisco Cabral and Maria de Jesus. Her maternal grandfather's name was
Manual da Silva. The icing on this cake was a margin note giving information
on her marriage with her husband down to the date and record number. Case
solved. Names were close but the families were different. The birth date I
had for Maria da Conceicao was actually the on for Maria Julia Cabral The
error in the marriage records was the priest wrote the wrong parents names
for Maria da Conceicao.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for records of an individual and parents

[Cheri Mello]

And you may want Manuel Souza and Isabel __. She's probably da
Conceição, de Jesus, do Espirito Santo, etc. She's very likely going by her
middle, religious name in the 1880s and 1890s.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Cameron,
> Have you searched the Uminho site for Pico for record of Manuel
> birth/baptism? You have the parental names so to search each village
> doesn't take that long and you can search in English. ghp.ics.uminho.pt,
> then click on genealogies (left on ribbon) then click on each village
> one-by-one to search for Manuel.
>
> Rosemarie
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> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Cameron Hazer 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So, I know many people here have developed their own databases from
>> researching documents and wanted to know if anyone could search their own
>> database for this family:
>>
>> Manuel Souza + Isabelle Garcia (parents)
>>
>> Manuel Souza Garcia (child)
>>
>> The son was born on Pico, and I'm assuming the same would be true of the
>> parents. He was born somewhere between 1888 and 1892 based on the records
>> I've looked at. I have no info on the parents aside from names, which I
>> acquired from a marriage certificate for the son. Don't know of any
>> siblings.
>>
>> This is of course just a request if it's not too much trouble. I'm
>> manually going through baptisms myself, but that can be incredibly time
>> consuming when looking for parents and so on. I couldn't find them on the
>> ghp.ics site with the family indices.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help in dating of photograph sought

[linda]

I'd say late 19th century.  It looks like a classic photo studio portrait.  I 
can generally date these pictures to within a decade (e.g., "1890's") by hair, 
dress and shoe styles. But those traits in this picture aren't familiar to me. 
That leads me to suspect the photo was not taken in the US, and I'd further 
guess the family had means.

How'd I do? :)

What kind of photo is it, and what size? That info can help with dating too.
Linda

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for records of an individual and parents

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Cameron,
Have you searched the Uminho site for Pico for record of Manuel
birth/baptism? You have the parental names so to search each village
doesn't take that long and you can search in English. ghp.ics.uminho.pt,
then click on genealogies (left on ribbon) then click on each village
one-by-one to search for Manuel.

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Cameron Hazer 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So, I know many people here have developed their own databases from
> researching documents and wanted to know if anyone could search their own
> database for this family:
>
> Manuel Souza + Isabelle Garcia (parents)
>
> Manuel Souza Garcia (child)
>
> The son was born on Pico, and I'm assuming the same would be true of the
> parents. He was born somewhere between 1888 and 1892 based on the records
> I've looked at. I have no info on the parents aside from names, which I
> acquired from a marriage certificate for the son. Don't know of any
> siblings.
>
> This is of course just a request if it's not too much trouble. I'm
> manually going through baptisms myself, but that can be incredibly time
> consuming when looking for parents and so on. I couldn't find them on the
> ghp.ics site with the family indices.
>
> Thanks!
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for records of an individual and parents

[Cameron Hazer]

Hi,

So, I know many people here have developed their own databases from 
researching documents and wanted to know if anyone could search their own 
database for this family:

Manuel Souza + Isabelle Garcia (parents)

Manuel Souza Garcia (child)

The son was born on Pico, and I'm assuming the same would be true of the 
parents. He was born somewhere between 1888 and 1892 based on the records 
I've looked at. I have no info on the parents aside from names, which I 
acquired from a marriage certificate for the son. Don't know of any 
siblings.

This is of course just a request if it's not too much trouble. I'm manually 
going through baptisms myself, but that can be incredibly time consuming 
when looking for parents and so on. I couldn't find them on the ghp.ics 
site with the family indices.

Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topo Death Index

[Kathy Cardoza]

You’re very welcome, Rosemarie!

Kathy
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> On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
> 
> Thanks,Kathy for posting and Suzanne for doing the wor, of indexing! 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Kathy Cardoza  > wrote:
> I have added a new file to the Azores GenWeb. It is an index for Topo, Sao 
> Jorge death records that, at this time, covers the years 1633 - 1673. These 
> were extracted and shared with all of us by Suzanne Edvalson. The index is 
> here:  
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/sao-jorge/topo-death-indexes/
>  
> 
> 
> Kathy Cardoza
> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
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