Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Apolonia 1680 Ribeirinha Terceira

[Cameron Hazer]

Been researching these people as well, as they're in my tree. (Slowly) 
working on indexing all the baptisms in this first book. I think Pedro 
Machado Evangelho is also the son of Manuel Machado Evangelho and Ana 
Rodrigues as far as I can tell.

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 11:34:29 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Yeah, I see it now Bill. The gods are Manuel Martins Rebelo and Maria 
> Rebela, wife of Pedro Machado. Thanks for the 2nd set of eyes.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:03 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Hello Sandra,
>>
>> I agree with Cheri except that the Godmother, Maria Rebela, is the wife 
>> of Pedro Machado, rather than Manuel Martins Rebelo..
>>
>> You and I probably connect in Ribeirinha somehow.  I match 6 of the FTDNA 
>> kits you manage.  The only one that is closer than "remote" is Amelia 
>> Parreira (3rd to 5th) who also seems to have Ribeirinha ancestry.  My 
>> maternal grandfather's line has been in Ribeirinha since at least before 
>> the mid 1600's.  
>>
>> I will hopefully have a gedcom uploaded to FTDNA soon.
>>
>> Bill Seidler
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 9:25:41 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Manuel Machado and Maria de Mendonca are the parents. Manuel 
>>> Martins Rebelo and Maria Rebela his wife are the godparents. The priest is 
>>> Pedro Fagundes. Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Sandra Valine Dauer >> > wrote:
>>>

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705_item1/P130.html
 Baptism Ribeirinha Terceira (1624-1705) 1680 CCS index 0130 Top LEFT
 On the 18 day of February 1680 baptized Apolonia daughter of Manuel ?  
  Machado and his wife Maria da _  Mendonca?
 Godparents Manuel Martins  and
 ___ Maria   
 all / living village do Aspostolic do Sao Pedro da Ribeirinha ___
 Signature:    Fagundes
 Thank you Sandra Valine Dauer

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815

[Cameron Hazer]

Thanks for the clarification. It looks like I have the same info as Shirley as 
I looked up the cca records myself.

And don’t worry about me relying on other trees, Cheri - I’ve been going 
through cca records for everything, it’s just slow-going. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815

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I descend from Antonio’s elder brother, Francisco Garcia da Rosa (b 1823). I’d 
have to check my number of children for Prudenciana, but I’m probably missing a 
couple. I need to cross-reference another tree that has more entries.

Is your husband John0202 on ancestry? His tree is the one I’ve referenced a 
couple times so far.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815

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That matches my records, Shirley

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815

[Cameron Hazer]

So, I've hit a bit of a snag. An ancestor of mine, Prudenciana Narcisa (do 
Coração de Jesus), was born - according to her obit, marriage, and 
children's baptisms to be from Santo Antonio. The problem is, her obit 
lists her age as 80 in her obit in 1865, and the baptisms in Santo Antonio 
on the Centro/Tombo sites don't go back before 1815.


Is this an issue of records being lost, or was Santo Antonio part of a 
different parish at the time? Or is it something else I didn't think of?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Article on names

[Cameron Hazer]

Where is this article?

On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 2:11:08 PM UTC-8, gs...@centurylink.net 
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>
> Cheri: 
> That article you wrote on names is terrific! Very helpful and now I need 
> to go back and double check that anybody I linked to  my great grandmother 
> Ana Jacinta are not “Jacintas” and therefore not related to me. Oy Vay!! 
>
> Gordon

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for records of an individual and parents

[Cameron Hazer]

One more thing, where do I find the UPEC reg on ancestry? I'm having quite 
the time finding it.

Cameorn

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for records of an individual and parents

[Cameron Hazer]

Heh, I did suggest to my mom to fill out the form for her grandpa's death 
cert (same person), so I guess I was on the right track there. And I 
totally agree with the surname choice, I just wasn't sure if it was 
anomalous. He stated on his WWI card that he was from Pico, so I was 
searching there because of that. The couple I found in the indices are also 
the only ones I could see that fit reasonably well. I suppose they just 
might be missing from those indices.

Thanks a ton or the advice, Cheri. Being pretty new to this I appreciate it 
a lot! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for records of an individual and parents

[Cameron Hazer]

Hi Cheri,

I'm sorry if my post was confusing. My g-grandfather is Manuel Souza 
Garcia. I recently got access to his own marriage certificate (in 
California) listing his parents as Manuel Souza and Isabelle Garcia. 
Considering that women generally didn't have last names at the time my 
g-grandfather was born (between 1888 and 1892, as I originally stated) that 
means that his mother wouldn't have the name Garcia in the baptismal 
record, correct? It also wouldn't list his surname since they didn't do 
that as far as I can tell.

The marriage in the index link I posted is for the parents, and you can see 
a Manuel listed as a child with the birth year 1889. The mother is listed 
as Isabel Jacinta ("do Coração de Jesus" is how her name continues in their 
marriage record). The son is listed as Manuel Sousa.

Cameron

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for records of an individual and parents

[Cameron Hazer]

Would the Garcia name have come from her family even though it was later 
adopted? I'm trying to see if I can confirm the only couple I found with a 
Manuel born around the right time, and that's my only real hangup right 
now..

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for records of an individual and parents

[Cameron Hazer]

Adding onto my previous reply, would the surname Garcia have been added to 
Manuel at a later time like his mother? It could explain why the index 
doesn't show him with it.

Index in question:

http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Ribeiras;lang=pt;p=manuel;n=sousa;oc=1

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for records of an individual and parents

[Cameron Hazer]

Hi,

So, I know many people here have developed their own databases from 
researching documents and wanted to know if anyone could search their own 
database for this family:

Manuel Souza + Isabelle Garcia (parents)

Manuel Souza Garcia (child)

The son was born on Pico, and I'm assuming the same would be true of the 
parents. He was born somewhere between 1888 and 1892 based on the records 
I've looked at. I have no info on the parents aside from names, which I 
acquired from a marriage certificate for the son. Don't know of any 
siblings.

This is of course just a request if it's not too much trouble. I'm manually 
going through baptisms myself, but that can be incredibly time consuming 
when looking for parents and so on. I couldn't find them on the ghp.ics 
site with the family indices.

Thanks!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record on Findmypast.com

[Cameron Hazer]

Quick question: does anyone have access to findmypast?

I've found a marriage record that *could *be what I'm looking for, but I 
can't even see a preview of what the record is without paying for access. 
Is it okay to ask if someone can look for me and confirm its contents? All 
I really want to know is whether it's an index, a listing, or an actual 
certificate. If not, I understand.

Thanks

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Transcribing passport record - need help reading comment section

[Cameron Hazer]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P2.html

Entry #133, Manuel Garcia - 7th line up from the bottom.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Transcribing passport record - need help reading comment section

[Cameron Hazer]

Hi, been working on writing down all the entries for an ancestor I found on 
a passport list, but the writing is so small and the image not quite good 
enough to make out the script in places. I have some of it figured out, but 
would like help from veterans of this stuff, if possible. I'll provide the 
selection from the record in question.

The part I think I have figured out so far is "Uma cicatriz sua(?) sub-olho 
segundo..." which I think is "a scar under the second eye."

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