Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
I did indeed miss it ... thanks for sharing the link - I'll follow up and will submit data. On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Eric S, > > I posted on June 5th about Blaine's study and then a reminder again on > June 17th. Maybe life got in the way and you missed it: > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/azores/bettinger%7Csort:relevance/azores/9x41hGzYawQ/ZSpaSJOzBgAJ > > The study is ongoing. You can submit at any time. It's just that Blaine > took the data that was submitted to him by June 30th and he's now rerunning > the stats. And he'll rerun them again in the future. Because a sample size > of 2 endogamous 3C2R does not make for a good sample size. But it's a > start. That's why I told your match maybe "something like" a 3C2R. There's > not good data out there for me to say with total confidence. That's why I > said you may even have to go back 1-2 generations further. So all the iffy, > fuzzy type responses. But as we all chip in to work on this puzzle together > (and it's REAL nice of you to create the tree of your match), it will start > to come into focus. > > (New to genealogy people: 3C2R = 3rd Cousin 2 times Removed) > Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Eric Souza > wrote: > >> Thanks, Cheri. I don't know about Blaine's study ... or is that the >> Azores project with FTDNA that I opted into? Just wanting to make sure I'm >> helping if there's a way to help weave the web ... >> >> I do think I'm getting close! >> >> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 8:47:26 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Eric S, >>> >>> Since I can see your DNA page with your match, I'll use the FTDNA >>> numbers. Your match may be something like a 3C2R or maybe further. There's >>> not good data out there for 4th, 5th, etc cousins. Maybe more people >>> submitted their cMs for Blaine Bettinger's study and maybe he'll be able to >>> report 4C and 4C1R data to us this time. We'll have to wait and see. >>> >>> In the meantime, you'll probably have to go back to the 4 greats to >>> figure it out. Maybe 1-2 generations more. That's my best guess based on >>> what others have found. Cheri >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have a DNA match with Julie Souza Bassett with 36.7 cM. I'm in >>>> GEDmatch with Kit T153402. >>>> >>>> I started with her grandparents, and started going back from there. >>>> >>>> GrandfaterJoaquin Azevedo Souza b. 2/23/1894 d. 9/10/1953 >>>> Grandmother Maria Ezilda Leonardo Souza b. 1/1/1901 d. 12/3/1987 >>>> >>>> Here's a screenshot of what I've found so far, and believe to be >>>> accurate ... it's a private tree in Ancestry, so my "work in progress" >>>> isn't out as public fact, as I haven't found all documentation. >>>> >>>> Haven't found our common ancestor yet ... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Eric, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their >>>>> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you >>>>> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Nancy Jean >>>>> -- >>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com on behalf >>>>> of Rosemarie Capodicci >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM >>>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of >>>>> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge >>>>> >>>>> Eric, >>>>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 >>>>&g
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Eric S, I posted on June 5th about Blaine's study and then a reminder again on June 17th. Maybe life got in the way and you missed it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/azores/bettinger%7Csort:relevance/azores/9x41hGzYawQ/ZSpaSJOzBgAJ The study is ongoing. You can submit at any time. It's just that Blaine took the data that was submitted to him by June 30th and he's now rerunning the stats. And he'll rerun them again in the future. Because a sample size of 2 endogamous 3C2R does not make for a good sample size. But it's a start. That's why I told your match maybe "something like" a 3C2R. There's not good data out there for me to say with total confidence. That's why I said you may even have to go back 1-2 generations further. So all the iffy, fuzzy type responses. But as we all chip in to work on this puzzle together (and it's REAL nice of you to create the tree of your match), it will start to come into focus. (New to genealogy people: 3C2R = 3rd Cousin 2 times Removed) Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Eric Souza wrote: > Thanks, Cheri. I don't know about Blaine's study ... or is that the Azores > project with FTDNA that I opted into? Just wanting to make sure I'm helping > if there's a way to help weave the web ... > > I do think I'm getting close! > > On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 8:47:26 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Eric S, >> >> Since I can see your DNA page with your match, I'll use the FTDNA >> numbers. Your match may be something like a 3C2R or maybe further. There's >> not good data out there for 4th, 5th, etc cousins. Maybe more people >> submitted their cMs for Blaine Bettinger's study and maybe he'll be able to >> report 4C and 4C1R data to us this time. We'll have to wait and see. >> >> In the meantime, you'll probably have to go back to the 4 greats to >> figure it out. Maybe 1-2 generations more. That's my best guess based on >> what others have found. Cheri >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza >> wrote: >> >>> I have a DNA match with Julie Souza Bassett with 36.7 cM. I'm in >>> GEDmatch with Kit T153402. >>> >>> I started with her grandparents, and started going back from there. >>> >>> GrandfaterJoaquin Azevedo Souza b. 2/23/1894 d. 9/10/1953 >>> Grandmother Maria Ezilda Leonardo Souza b. 1/1/1901 d. 12/3/1987 >>> >>> Here's a screenshot of what I've found so far, and believe to be >>> accurate ... it's a private tree in Ancestry, so my "work in progress" >>> isn't out as public fact, as I haven't found all documentation. >>> >>> Haven't found our common ancestor yet ... >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Eric, >>>> >>>> >>>> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their >>>> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you >>>> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza? >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Nancy Jean >>>> -- >>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com on behalf of >>>> Rosemarie Capodicci >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM >>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of >>>> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge >>>> >>>> Eric, >>>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 >>>> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. >>>> >>>> >>>> Rosemarie >>>> rcap...@gmail.com >>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... >>>>> >>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digita
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Thanks, Cheri. I don't know about Blaine's study ... or is that the Azores project with FTDNA that I opted into? Just wanting to make sure I'm helping if there's a way to help weave the web ... I do think I'm getting close! On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 8:47:26 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Eric S, > > Since I can see your DNA page with your match, I'll use the FTDNA numbers. > Your match may be something like a 3C2R or maybe further. There's not good > data out there for 4th, 5th, etc cousins. Maybe more people submitted their > cMs for Blaine Bettinger's study and maybe he'll be able to report 4C and > 4C1R data to us this time. We'll have to wait and see. > > In the meantime, you'll probably have to go back to the 4 greats to figure > it out. Maybe 1-2 generations more. That's my best guess based on what > others have found. Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza > wrote: > >> I have a DNA match with Julie Souza Bassett with 36.7 cM. I'm in GEDmatch >> with Kit T153402. >> >> I started with her grandparents, and started going back from there. >> >> GrandfaterJoaquin Azevedo Souza b. 2/23/1894 d. 9/10/1953 >> Grandmother Maria Ezilda Leonardo Souza b. 1/1/1901 d. 12/3/1987 >> >> Here's a screenshot of what I've found so far, and believe to be accurate >> ... it's a private tree in Ancestry, so my "work in progress" isn't out as >> public fact, as I haven't found all documentation. >> >> Haven't found our common ancestor yet ... >> >> >> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste >> wrote: >>> >>> Eric, >>> >>> >>> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their >>> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you >>> among my matches in the DNA project......unless you are John Souza? >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Nancy Jean >>> -- >>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com on behalf of >>> Rosemarie Capodicci >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM >>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of >>> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge >>> >>> Eric, >>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 >>> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. >>> >>> >>> Rosemarie >>> rcap...@gmail.com >>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... >>>> >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html >>>> >>>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo >>>> >>>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza >>>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? >>>> >>>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> - Eric >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Eric, I think your Rosie Cravaho should be Carvalho but just a suggestion to search! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Eric Souza wrote: > Nancy Jean, thanks for your family information ... I see your Agueda's > birth record here ... > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR- > CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815_item1/P151.html > > It's entirely possible my connection with Julie goes through another of > the branches, so that's helpful information, that we likely don't share a > DNA link. > > These are such nice records! > > On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste > wrote: >> >> Eric, >> >> >> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their >> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you >> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza? >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Nancy Jean >> -- >> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com on behalf of >> Rosemarie Capodicci >> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM >> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of >> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge >> >> Eric, >> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 >> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. >> >> >> Rosemarie >> rcap...@gmail.com >> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >> >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza >> wrote: >> >>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH- >>> TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html >>> >>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo >>> >>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza >>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? >>> >>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> - Eric >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Nancy Jean, thanks for your family information ... I see your Agueda's birth record here ... http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815_item1/P151.html It's entirely possible my connection with Julie goes through another of the branches, so that's helpful information, that we likely don't share a DNA link. These are such nice records! On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste wrote: > > Eric, > > > These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their > daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you > among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza? > > > Best regards, > > Nancy Jean > -- > *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Rosemarie Capodicci > > *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM > *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of > João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge > > Eric, > There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 > Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. > > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza > wrote: > >> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html >> >> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo >> >> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza >> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? >> >> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? >> >> Thanks! >> >> - Eric >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Eric S, Since I can see your DNA page with your match, I'll use the FTDNA numbers. Your match may be something like a 3C2R or maybe further. There's not good data out there for 4th, 5th, etc cousins. Maybe more people submitted their cMs for Blaine Bettinger's study and maybe he'll be able to report 4C and 4C1R data to us this time. We'll have to wait and see. In the meantime, you'll probably have to go back to the 4 greats to figure it out. Maybe 1-2 generations more. That's my best guess based on what others have found. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza wrote: > I have a DNA match with Julie Souza Bassett with 36.7 cM. I'm in GEDmatch > with Kit T153402. > > I started with her grandparents, and started going back from there. > > GrandfaterJoaquin Azevedo Souza b. 2/23/1894 d. 9/10/1953 > Grandmother Maria Ezilda Leonardo Souza b. 1/1/1901 d. 12/3/1987 > > Here's a screenshot of what I've found so far, and believe to be accurate > ... it's a private tree in Ancestry, so my "work in progress" isn't out as > public fact, as I haven't found all documentation. > > Haven't found our common ancestor yet ... > > > On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste > wrote: >> >> Eric, >> >> >> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their >> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you >> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza? >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Nancy Jean >> ---------- >> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com on behalf of >> Rosemarie Capodicci >> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM >> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of >> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge >> >> Eric, >> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 >> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. >> >> >> Rosemarie >> rcap...@gmail.com >> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >> >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza >> wrote: >> >>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH- >>> TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html >>> >>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo >>> >>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza >>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? >>> >>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> - Eric >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
You are welcome, just glad I could help. I probably wouldn't have realized the Leonardes if I hadn't been editing the Sao Jorge Marriage Database! It clicked so I looked up their marriage data! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Eric Souza wrote: > Thanks Rosemarie, you're the best!! > > On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 4:48:26 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote: >> >> Eric, >> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 >> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. >> >> >> Rosemarie >> rcap...@gmail.com >> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >> >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza >> wrote: >> >>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH- >>> TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html >>> >>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo >>> >>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza >>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? >>> >>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> - Eric >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Thanks Rosemarie, you're the best!! On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 4:48:26 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote: > > Eric, > There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 > Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. > > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza > wrote: > >> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html >> >> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo >> >> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza >> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? >> >> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? >> >> Thanks! >> >> - Eric >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
I'll check! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2017, at 1:57 PM, nancy jean baptiste > wrote: > > Don, I think this is the same family but I don't have this person...I have: > > > Adjudante,Antonio da Silveira Leonardes married to Micaela do Rosario in 1777 > > > Capitao, Caetano da Silveira Leonardes married to Antonia Maria in 1740 > > > Capitao, Francisco Teixeira Leonardes married to Luisa do Espirito Santo da > Silveira in 1685 > > > Any of these familiar? > > > Nancy Jean > > > From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Donald > Vasconcelos > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:53:38 AM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João > Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge > > Nancy and Eric, > This might be how I am connected to Nancy. > Do you have a Francisca Maria de Jesus (b. Topo 10 Oct 1770) married Adjutant > Warrant Officer Francisco da Silverado Leonardo on 7 Nov 1803 in your tree? > Don Vasconcelos > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:30 AM, nancy jean baptiste > wrote: > >> Eric, >> >> >> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their >> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you >> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza? >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Nancy Jean >> >> >> From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of >> Rosemarie Capodicci >> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM >> To: azores@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João >> Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge >> >> Eric, >> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 >> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. >> >> >> Rosemarie >> rcap...@gmail.com >> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >> >>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza >>> wrote: >>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html >>> >>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo >>> >>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza >>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? >>> >>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> - Eric >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Don, I think this is the same family but I don't have this person...I have: Adjudante,Antonio da Silveira Leonardes married to Micaela do Rosario in 1777 Capitao, Caetano da Silveira Leonardes married to Antonia Maria in 1740 Capitao, Francisco Teixeira Leonardes married to Luisa do Espirito Santo da Silveira in 1685 Any of these familiar? Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Donald Vasconcelos Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:53:38 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge Nancy and Eric, This might be how I am connected to Nancy. Do you have a Francisca Maria de Jesus (b. Topo 10 Oct 1770) married Adjutant Warrant Officer Francisco da Silverado Leonardo on 7 Nov 1803 in your tree? Don Vasconcelos Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:30 AM, nancy jean baptiste mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Eric, These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza? Best regards, Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Rosemarie Capodicci mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge Eric, There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza mailto:ericcharles.so...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? Thanks! - Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Nancy and Eric, This might be how I am connected to Nancy. Do you have a Francisca Maria de Jesus (b. Topo 10 Oct 1770) married Adjutant Warrant Officer Francisco da Silverado Leonardo on 7 Nov 1803 in your tree? Don Vasconcelos Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:30 AM, nancy jean baptiste > wrote: > > Eric, > > > These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their > daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you among > my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza? > > > Best regards, > > Nancy Jean > > > From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of > Rosemarie Capodicci > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João > Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge > > Eric, > There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 > Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. > > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza >> wrote: >> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html >> >> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo >> >> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza >> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? >> >> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? >> >> Thanks! >> >> - Eric >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Eric, These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza? Best regards, Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Rosemarie Capodicci Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge Eric, There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza mailto:ericcharles.so...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? Thanks! - Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Eric, There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85 Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza wrote: > I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR- > CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html > > 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo > > Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza > Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? > > Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? > > Thanks! > > - Eric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Eric, Paternal: Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes (I think) Maternal Francisco Jose de Azevedo & Mariana da Conceicao Hope this helps! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza wrote: > I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR- > CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html > > 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo > > Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza > Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? > > Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? > > Thanks! > > - Eric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
Could it be Martinho de Souza Machado? Mary On Friday, August 11, 2017, Eric Souza wrote: > I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR- > CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html > > 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo > > Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza > Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? > > Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? > > Thanks! > > - Eric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ... http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo? Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao? Thanks! - Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.