Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.
I became aware that Doug was removed as an admin from his project. I don't know what's going on. I've been busy teaching and dealing with hospice and the nursing home for the past couple of weeks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.
Yes MtDNA is important. I had a gentleman who was searching for my ggg grandmother for 25years!!! I emailed him and told him I believed it was my ggg grandmother. Luckily we found a female couisn 94 from his side and mine which came back as positive match. On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Steve Wright wrote: > Upsetting that he asking people to remove their kits from project! > > Colleen > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Mary Bordi wrote: > > Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on. I have been a > little irritated by certain things on social media, too. Someone, not the > "main" person, has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous > information to newbies. I can't stand to watch. > > I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a > man whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for > generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As > more people test I'm sure there will be more matches. > > Mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.
Upsetting that he asking people to remove their kits from project! Colleen Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Mary Bordi wrote: > > Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on. I have been a > little irritated by certain things on social media, too. Someone, not the > "main" person, has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous > information to newbies. I can't stand to watch. > > I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a man > whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for > generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As > more people test I'm sure there will be more matches. > > Mary > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.
Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on. I have been a little irritated by certain things on social media, too. Someone, not the "main" person, has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous information to newbies. I can't stand to watch. I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a man whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As more people test I'm sure there will be more matches. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.
Thank you Colleen, things like this damage the good relationships that genealogy does to bring us together. Rick From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Wright Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:52 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media. Thank you for clarifying. I've seen the statements on social media and was a little irritated. This person seems to have a lot of hatred towards a certain person. I became very Leary after reading his comments. Thank you for all you and the administrators due for the Azores project! Colleen Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa and Silva, Machado, Goncalves from Terceira and Pico Sent from my iPad On Aug 11, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with the National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I have read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not do. I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong and misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from legitimate projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies. People are being told: “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a massive increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really help. The only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact them. Nothing more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of understanding DNA. mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to their female descendant’s mtDNA. I can guarantee that a person who tests their full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French Canadian line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who was born in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant. I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his profile I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and his results were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information he told me his adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish decent. I told him of the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his first big clue in finding his biological mother. When I checked back with him several months later he had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA and Autosomal DNA testing and yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line. People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is well proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule out relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder will give you results that help in breaking down walls. Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)? FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not release information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching of results. Your contact information is only given to persons that you match. FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media. FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project. FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells. FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in regard to privacy. The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to unlike the owner of this group on Facebook. The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores DNA Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to protect. If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to change it so that just you have control over your information and not any unscrupulous person on social media. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project. Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.goo
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.
Thank you for the explanation on the mtDNA, Richard. I always think that it is a hard test to get a good trace but you've explained how it can really help. I will pay more attention in the future! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with > the National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I > have read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not > do. > > I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong > and misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from > legitimate projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies. > > People are being told: “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a > massive increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really > help. The only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact > them. Nothing more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of > understanding DNA. > > mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and > live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better > Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal > ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the > founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to > their female descendant’s mtDNA. I can guarantee that a person who tests > their full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French > Canadian line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who > was born in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant. > > I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his > profile I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and > his results were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information > he told me his adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish > decent. I told him of the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his > first big clue in finding his biological mother. When I checked back with > him several months later he had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA > and Autosomal DNA testing and yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line. > > People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done > Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is > well proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule > out relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder > will give you results that help in breaking down walls. > > Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)? > > FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not > release information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching > of results. Your contact information is only given to persons that you > match. > > FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media. > > FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project. > > FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at > yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells. > > FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in > regard to privacy. > > The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are > directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to > unlike the owner of this group on Facebook. > > The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores > DNA Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to > provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to > protect. > > If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to > change it so that just you have control over your information and not any > unscrupulous person on social media. > > > > Rick > > Richard Francis Pimentel > > Epping, NH > > Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project. > > Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.
Thank you for clarifying. I've seen the statements on social media and was a little irritated. This person seems to have a lot of hatred towards a certain person. I became very Leary after reading his comments. Thank you for all you and the administrators due for the Azores project! Colleen Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa and Silva, Machado, Goncalves from Terceira and Pico Sent from my iPad > On Aug 11, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel > wrote: > > I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with the > National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I have > read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not do. > > I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong and > misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from legitimate > projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies. > > People are being told: “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a massive > increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really help. The > only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact them. Nothing > more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of understanding DNA. > > mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and > live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better > Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal > ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the > founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to their > female descendant’s mtDNA. I can guarantee that a person who tests their > full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French Canadian > line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who was born > in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant. > > I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his profile > I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and his results > were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information he told me his > adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish decent. I told him of > the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his first big clue in finding > his biological mother. When I checked back with him several months later he > had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA and Autosomal DNA testing and > yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line. > > People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done > Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is well > proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule out > relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder will > give you results that help in breaking down walls. > > Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)? > > FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not release > information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching of results. > Your contact information is only given to persons that you match. > > FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media. > > FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project. > > FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at > yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells. > > FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in > regard to privacy. > > The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are > directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to > unlike the owner of this group on Facebook. > > The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores DNA > Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to > provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to > protect. > > If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to > change it so that just you have control over your information and not any > unscrupulous person on social media. > > > > Rick > Richard Francis Pimentel > Epping, NH > Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project. > Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta > Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+uns