Re: [backstage] built with

2007-09-26 Thread Gordon Joly
At 12:47 +0100 19/9/07, Simon Cobb wrote: I'm liking this site: http://builtwith.com/http://builtwith.com/ Shows you what a site is, er, built with example: http://builtwith.com/default.aspx?backstage.bbc.co.ukhttp://builtwith.com/default.aspx?backstage.bbc.co.uk Most of my sites are

Re: [backstage] built with

2007-09-26 Thread vijay chopra
On 26/09/2007, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of my sites are built with Emacs... Gordo We all know you love vi really... ;p Personally I use notepad++ http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm for my web development needs; I've heard it's good with other languages too,

[backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Martin Belam
Hi all, I have my BBC hat back on at the moment, and one of the things I am working on is a project to do with online voting and ratings. Part of my brief is to explore how the BBC might utilise and re-use information and data gathered via voting, and hopefully make a business case for releasing

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Brian Butterworth
Martin, Did you read this? http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/comment/0,,2175214,00.html Comment -- If you think the nation decides, think again Via phone-in, vote and blog, a vocal minority appears to be speaking for the silent majority *Carol Sarler Sunday

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Martin Belam
No I hadn't, thanks for pointing it out. I used to be Senior Producer on Online Voting at the BBC for a couple of years, and so I have some quite strong opinions about when it is right to run an online vote and when the correct reaction is You did *what*? - most of those views are probably more

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread vijay chopra
Whilst I applaud your effort, I inherently distrust online polls, and cs disclaimed on a site that we're all familiar with: This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane. So

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Christopher Woods
Leaving the last digit from the last octet out would be fine, though? Then you could group by IP addresses for purposes like fraud checking and suchlike. I'm sure the BBC sites always say that standard information such as browser and IP address will be collected whenever you submit information to

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Gordon Joly
At 17:40 +0100 26/9/07, Martin Belam wrote: No I hadn't, thanks for pointing it out. I used to be Senior Producer on Online Voting at the BBC for a couple of years, and so I have some quite strong opinions about when it is right to run an online vote and when the correct reaction is You did

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread vijay chopra
On 26/09/2007, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leaving the last digit from the last octet out would be fine, though? Then you could group by IP addresses for purposes like fraud checking and suchlike. I'm sure the BBC sites always say that standard information such as browser and

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Brian Butterworth
Or, to put it another BBC [1986] way... Humphrey Applebey was most interested in the party opinion poll, which I had seen as an insuperable obstacle to changing the Prime Minister's mind. His solution was simple: have another opinion poll done, one that would show that the voters were