Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage

2007-10-18 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Good point actually Christopher - and you're not the first to suggest it. I think this list has evolved over time to be a general discussion group around vaguely technical areas at the BBC - when it was first set up it was always going to be a 'noisy' list - and we've always recommended that you

RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Simon Cross
Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S

Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Jolly
Matthew Cashmore wrote: We will all of course be very sad to stop using MajorDomo. Ha! S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive:

Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Jolly
Adam Lindsay wrote: I went back and noticed that the original poster's question wasn't answered: are there any plans to reveal statistics on iPlayer usage? http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/ You could always ask directly... :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe,

Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment

Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage

2007-10-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Lindsay wrote: I went back and noticed that the original poster's question wasn't answered: are there any plans to reveal statistics on iPlayer usage? http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/ You could always ask directly... :-) You could ask

RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Ian Forrester
You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable

Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers

2007-10-18 Thread hayfielddigitalparish
Long time coming but: Apple opens up iPhone to app developers http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/17/iphone_sdk/ The iPhone and iTouch are to get a Software Developers Kit in February next year, allowing developers to create proper native applications for the platform and allowing it to

Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage

2007-10-18 Thread Martin Belam
hmm, IANAL but me reckons iplayer usage numbers would probably fall under that catch-all its about broadcasting and the way we do our business, innit? FOI get out clause that keeps the Balen Report out of the public eye On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007,

Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers

2007-10-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? It seems to me this is a way of deflecting criticism (and possibly regulation) from the device? On 18/10/2007, hayfielddigitalparish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Long

Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 18/10/2007, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Oh right. What I

Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Matthew Cashmore
This would be a good place to start Brian... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/ Which is a redirect from http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/ On 18/10/07 13:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should do, Windows

Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Martin Belam
Simon, that sounds like a terribly restricting product that uses proprietary technology and potentially distorts the market for mobile phone technology - have you cleared this with the BBC Trust? I expect there will be questions in the House and a demo outside TVC if you don't ;-) On

[backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?

2007-10-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
I was just wondering what is to happen to Backstage.bbc.co.uk as part of the Thompson plans? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm 'Future Media Technology Online, mobile, interactive, archives 120 - 130 Redundancies '

Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 18/10/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be a good place to start Brian... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/ A 'all podcast' RSS feed would be useful... Which is a redirect from http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/ On 18/10/07 13:30, Brian

RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Carlos Roman
A 'all podcast' RSS feed would be useful... Yep there is one, but at the moment we are just finishing it off before releasing it to the whole world. Don't worry, as soon as we're happy with it then you can all play with it :) -C. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Jolly
Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps,

RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Darren Stephens
Which, oddly I find works better on Gran Paradiso alpha 4 than it does on Safari (both on Windows XP). The latter manages to mangle the text in the lists as soon as graphics get loaded. Nice app though, and nice use of canvas for something vaguely useful From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers

2007-10-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to

RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Simon Cross
Theres a master podcast OPML feed on the way. we'll let you know From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 October 2007 14:13 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news On

Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?

2007-10-18 Thread Matthew Cashmore
No major news here Brian ­ business as normal. m On 18/10/07 14:09, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering what is to happen to Backstage.bbc.co.uk http://Backstage.bbc.co.uk as part of the Thompson plans? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm

Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers

2007-10-18 Thread Jason Cartwright
Not really. Few internal trusted developers vs hoards of untrusted nefarious hackers - you're going to need different tools. J On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four

Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers

2007-10-18 Thread Adam Lindsay
Steve Jolly wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for

Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?

2007-10-18 Thread Brian Butterworth
That's great news! On 18/10/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No major news here Brian – business as normal. m On 18/10/07 14:09, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering what is to happen to Backstage.bbc.co.ukhttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/

Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers

2007-10-18 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Brian you¹re in a very happy mood these last couple of days! Think of nice things like kittens and DRM free TV :-) m On 18/10/07 15:23, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to

RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread Simon Cross
Why not try the BBC Podcasts Facebook App! http://apps.facebook.com/bbcpodcasts Feature requests welcome - but you can mark podcasts as your favourites, and it'll notify you when a new one becomes avaliable. S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers

2007-10-18 Thread Jason Cartwright
Yeah, because perfect code is possible - and there is never a version 2.0 of any product. J On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really. Few internal trusted developers vs hoards of untrusted nefarious

[backstage-developer] 2008 BBC Innovation Labs

2007-10-18 Thread Matthew Cashmore
We're really pleased to announce the 2008 BBC Innovation Labs. This year sees some changes to the way the process works, but also widens the geographical area to include Wales and the West Midlands. The Innovation Labs will run in; Scotland North West England North East England Wales West

Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?

2007-10-18 Thread Gordon Joly
And bad news for the 2,000 people who will be let go... 420 from factual television, and 470 will go from News. Multimedia will expand, and they are selling TVC. It all makes sense. Who needs at *television* centre when all you really want to do is to dive into the multimedia (digital)

Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers

2007-10-18 Thread Richard Smedley
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 16:41 +0100, Jason Cartwright wrote: Yeah, because perfect code is possible - and there is never a version 2.0 of any product. TeX was last updated in 2002 (although it is now at version 3.141592). Should you find a bug you will be handsomely rewarded with Donald Knuth's

Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?

2007-10-18 Thread Martin Deutsch
I've never quite been able to work out the specifics of the deal (see Eyes *passim*, as they say), but Television Centre (and several other BBC buildings) passed back into BBC hands a few years after that deal, and the facilities management contract with Land Securities has ended. While it's good

[backstage] Now playing

2007-10-18 Thread Chris Riley
Apologies for posting this to both lists, but it applies to both the masses on backstage and the developers on the developer list. I've coded a hopefully useful, if not idea stimulating web page. It is called Now Playing http://cgriley.com/nowplaying/ and shows you information about the artist

Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?

2007-10-18 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Chaps... This is nothing to do with backstage at all, can we please leave this topic for discussion in other places. m On 18/10/07 17:38, Martin Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never quite been able to work out the specifics of the deal (see Eyes passim, as they say), but Television

Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news

2007-10-18 Thread vijay chopra
On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an

[backstage] Pop!Tech Conference live stream

2007-10-18 Thread Ian Forrester
Pop!Tech is one of those conferences like TED which we would all love to go to but can never afford (4000 dollars). No Need its live on the web in Windows Media format (hopes he can get it working at home using xbmc like last time). http://poptech.com/live/

Re: [backstage] Wii News Channel

2007-10-18 Thread James Cridland
On 10/16/07, Barry Carlyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had heard that one of the student radio stations was building a flash player for their radio stream for the wii….. Cough http://www.playthree.net/2007/04/virgin-radio-available-on-ps3-and-wii.html Yes, April. //j