Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Duncan Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 04/01/2008, Mr I Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dave Crossland wrote: > > > On 04/01/2008, Barry Carlyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> iPlayer on the Normal Xbox would be interesting... > > > Yes, the original Xbox, not the

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

And now you say we shouldn't use the streaming version either on non-PC? You do not need to port Flash to use the streaming iPlayer. Flash is a convenient client tool but it is not the only one. Any piece of software which can talk RTMP and play FLV files can use iPlayer. So long it will r

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Mr I Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 04/01/2008, Barry Carlyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> silly point - > >> > >> "Just in case anyone missed it, there's a bunch of developers trying to > >> bring BBC iPlayer content to the Xbox1 and Wii.

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Mr I Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If anyone wants to implement a downloader for some kind of NAS or > > server, or router then it would be interesting to see (once the BBC > > hands over what's needed). > > > You could do this now if you like, there are already applicat

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 04/01/2008, Mr I Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hold on a sec, we would never suggest breaking Adobe's EULA. > > No one is suggesting porting Flash to a non-PC system. > > I must have mis-understood. I assumed by "exotic devices" you mea

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

Dave Crossland wrote: On 04/01/2008, Barry Carlyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: silly point - "Just in case anyone missed it, there's a bunch of developers trying to bring BBC iPlayer content to the Xbox1 and Wii. The main thread can be found here - http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/forum/showthr

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Mr I Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hold on a sec, we would never suggest breaking Adobe's EULA. > No one is suggesting porting Flash to a non-PC system. I must have mis-understood. I assumed by "exotic devices" you meant something other than a desktop PC? I thought you whe

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

Andy wrote: On 04/01/2008, Phil Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You don't need the iPlayer source. All of the heavy lifting on the client is done by Flash itself. Flash is somewhat inefficient as it's adding an extra layer in the way of the hardware. It is also prohibited to use the

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 04/01/2008, Phil Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You don't need the iPlayer source. All of the heavy lifting on the client > > is done by Flash > > itself. > > Flash is somewhat inefficient as it's adding an extra layer in the way > of the

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Mr I Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy wrote: > > On 04/01/2008, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> So if your building a iplayer for an exotic device platform, do get in > >> touch. > >> > > > > Quick questions: > > Adobe Flash is prohibited on non-PC syste

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Phil Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You don't need the iPlayer source. All of the heavy lifting on the client is done by Flash itself. how can the "heavy lifting" be done by Flash if Flash is prohibited? The heavy lifting *in iPlayer* is done natively by Flash. The point

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Barry Carlyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > silly point - > > "Just in case anyone missed it, there's a bunch of developers trying to > bring BBC iPlayer content to the Xbox1 and Wii. The main thread can be > found here - http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27063"; >

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

Andy wrote: On 04/01/2008, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So if your building a iplayer for an exotic device platform, do get in touch. Quick questions: Adobe Flash is prohibited on non-PC systems, is the BBC suggesting we violate Adobe's EULA or just not use the streaming ve

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

No thats not a typo. I own a Xbox 1 and its capabilities to playback media via the Xbox media centre is still amazing and leaves everything in its dust. The Xbox1 is also a good test machine to see what would happen if for example you could write scripts on a set top box. Barry Carlyon wrote

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

silly point - "Just in case anyone missed it, there's a bunch of developers trying to bring BBC iPlayer content to the Xbox1 and Wii. The main thread can be found here - http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27063"; is xbox1 a typo, myself a poor student, still only have an xbox1

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Phil Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't need the iPlayer source. All of the heavy lifting on the client is > done by Flash > itself. Flash is somewhat inefficient as it's adding an extra layer in the way of the hardware. It is also prohibited to use the Adobe Flash Web P

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 1/4/08, Mr I Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martin Deutsch wrote: > > > > > > On 1/4/08, *Ian Forrester* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > Just in case anyone missed it, there's a bunch of developers > > trying to bring BBC iPlayer content to the

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

> Many exotic system don't run x86 Processor emulators for the x86 > chipset are also too slow for small devices. Where is the iPlayer > source code so we can recompile for ARM, MIPS etc.? You don't need the iPlayer source. All of the heavy lifting on the client is done by Flash itself. > A lo

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

Dave Crossland wrote: On 04/01/2008, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 3. My thoughts about bringing the iplayer to other devices was correct. If you don't break the DRM on the download version, re-transcode the streaming version, make the content available outside of the UK (break the

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

Martin Deutsch wrote: On 1/4/08, *Ian Forrester* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Just in case anyone missed it, there's a bunch of developers trying to bring BBC iPlayer content to the Xbox1 and Wii. The main thread can be found here - http://www.xboxmed

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So if your building a iplayer for an exotic device platform, do get in touch. Quick questions: Adobe Flash is prohibited on non-PC systems, is the BBC suggesting we violate Adobe's EULA or just not use the streaming version? Many exotic sy

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 04/01/2008, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 3. My thoughts about bringing the iplayer to other devices was correct. > If you don't break the DRM on the download version, re-transcode > the streaming version, make the content available outside of the UK > (break the GeoIP) and finall

Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

On 1/4/08, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just in case anyone missed it, there's a bunch of developers trying to > bring BBC iPlayer content to the Xbox1 and Wii. The main thread can be found > here - http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27063 [...] This is possibly

[backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices

Just in case anyone missed it, there's a bunch of developers trying to bring BBC iPlayer content to the Xbox1 and Wii. The main thread can be found here - http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27063 I spoke to our iPlayer team and I can mention a couple of things. 1. The ability

[backstage] FW: OPSI's BarcampPOIR8

The Government is getting in on the BarCamp Action and would like you all to come along. More below... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0