Re: [backstage] Hack Day 2008, let's all get Mashed...

2008-01-24 Thread Iain Wallace
On Jan 24, 2008 8:25 AM, Premasagar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great stuff! I'm looking forward to it already... Last year's Hack Day was absolutely one of the highlights of the year. Clickety-clacking all night long to create something new and exciting... How come the name change? Won't that

Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script

2008-01-24 Thread Andy
On 23/01/2008, Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without looking it up, the previous reply (from a Gnash dev IIRC) was that the BBC are using the latest version of Adobe Flash Streaming Server, and this has dropped support for streaming over HTTP. I remembered it being described as

Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script

2008-01-24 Thread Iain Wallace
On Jan 24, 2008 9:11 AM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/01/2008, Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without looking it up, the previous reply (from a Gnash dev IIRC) was that the BBC are using the latest version of Adobe Flash Streaming Server, and this has dropped support for

Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

2008-01-24 Thread Brian Butterworth
Steve, Thanks for replying. On 24/01/2008, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: It seems incredible to me that the BBC is DELIBERATELY providing me (via Microsoft) with inaccurate information. If you were to start by assuming that inaccuracies in the EPG data

Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script

2008-01-24 Thread Sean DALY
I believe icecast would be a better FOSS candidate for a multicast on-demand streaming server than VLC. But really, any discussion of streaming must needs associate the file format container and codec and client-side application (browser plug-in, dedicated, ...). And on a large scale, the

Re: [backstage] Lol

2008-01-24 Thread Brian Butterworth
David, That's the best mashup since the last 2Many DJs set I heard. On 23/01/2008, David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably posted before - http://lol.ianloic.com/bbc - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

[backstage] HackHUD - from Hack Day 2007

2008-01-24 Thread Premasagar
While we're on the subject of Hack Day, I didn't yet post to this list our (BBC-prizewinning ;) hack from Hack Day 2007... * http://dharmafly.com/blog/hackhud * http://dharmafly.com/projects/hackhud Called HackHUD, it's a Greasemonkey userscript that adds a layer of grassroots user content on

Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script

2008-01-24 Thread Sean DALY
Have you ever used youtube? you can skip to any part of the video and it starts streaming from there. The only reason i can see adobe deprecating http is so you have to use their clients to use it! Mike - http is not ideally suited to streaming, where the idea is to provide smooth audio or

Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script

2008-01-24 Thread Phil Wilson
(for some reason Andy's reply didn't make it to my mail client, but I've read it online here: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/msg07375.html - I'd really appreciate it if the Backstage page about the mailing list would link to the HTML archive!) Apache has the power to

Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

2008-01-24 Thread Martin Deutsch
On Jan 24, 2008 10:31 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] *I* know I can do this, I just wanted to know why the BBC was providing poisoned information. Why should people who have paid for Windows Vista Ultimate Edition have a poor service on purpose? Why should the

Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script

2008-01-24 Thread Matt Barber
You are correct in saying that apache cannot stream files, the only possibility is to progressively download the data, otherwise known as 'http streaming', which is, as previously mentioned, inefficient compared to other more suitable methods. I think that part of the problem is that today there

Re: [backstage] Hack Day 2008, let's all get Mashed...

2008-01-24 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Use the Hollywood solution - call it Mashed: Hack Day 2008 Genius! I wanted to make it quite clear that Hack Day is a Yahoo! Concept and that we - as great artists do - stole it! I'm sure everyone will just keep on calling it Hack Day - everyone has so far :-) It's going to be bloody amazing,

[backstage] Fwd: [Audacity-devel] BBC Tutorials

2008-01-24 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi, Does anyone on here know who to contact about this? It would be cool to get the tutorials under the CA license or similar CC/etc :-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Gale Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 18, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: [Audacity-devel] BBC Tutorials To: [EMAIL

Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

2008-01-24 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 24/01/2008, Martin Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008 10:31 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] *I* know I can do this, I just wanted to know why the BBC was providing poisoned information. Why should people who have paid for Windows Vista

Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script

2008-01-24 Thread Matt Barber
On Jan 24, 2008 11:39 AM, Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are correct in saying that apache cannot stream files, the only possibility is to progressively download the data, otherwise known as 'http streaming', which is, as previously mentioned, inefficient compared to other more

Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

2008-01-24 Thread David Greaves
Caveat: I'm an amateur in this area who knows a bit because I run a MythTV system. Be polite if you correct me. Brian Butterworth wrote: I am saying that if the BBC knows that a programme is scheduled at 2202-2232 then it should deliver that data correctly to the EPG providers.

Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script

2008-01-24 Thread Andy
On 24/01/2008, Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, Apache cannot stream files. The client does the streaming. Apache does the serving. Technically possible with any HTTP server. Adam Wrote: Apache is okay, but no security and it can only do http, It has very few bugs and

[backstage] Dirac Pro v1.0.0, SMPTE VC-2

2008-01-24 Thread Sean DALY
I think this is fabulous news. Congratulations to all who worked on it. A patent-unencumbered (say that 10x fast) royalty-free codec is something the world needs. So what if Microsoft doesn't support it, they don't support H.264 or AAC either (XBox Zune aside) and look where that got iTunes.

Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script

2008-01-24 Thread Phil Wilson
Still doesn't explain how midnight is handled or what the timezone is! At this point, I'm going to bow out of the conversation. Feel free to curse me for being stupid, misleading, insulting or whatever. It seems to me that you have some reasonably fundamental misunderstandings about all the

Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

2008-01-24 Thread Martin Deutsch
On Jan 24, 2008 3:31 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] broadcasters - don't publish the exact start times of programmes anywhere, which is not quite Can I assume the word missing from the end of your sentence was true? If you can show me a broadcast schedule for a major

Re: [backstage] BBC TWO Programme timings

2008-01-24 Thread Steve Jolly
Brian Butterworth wrote: I'm not trying to BLAME anyone here, I'm trying to find out where the EPG information gets nobbled and make an attempt to get some to acknowledge mistakes and provide accuracy in the data. Accuracy is impractical. Locking the start time of programmes to a

RE: [backstage] Apml for bbc radio music programmes

2008-01-24 Thread Michael Smethurst
Just to say I've also created APML for John Peel based on the artists played in session (1967-2004). IMHO attention profiles don't get much better. Good to see The Mighty Fall getting an attention score of 1.0 (27 sessions in total - all magnificent). Anyway, it's linked to from the meta