Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/3/17 John O'Donovan john.odono...@bbc.co.uk: [those] in the newsroom should go get another job to pay the bills so that they can support their journalism in their spare time, sort themselves out and learn up about internet marketing and the brave new world. Seriously? Yes.

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Tom Morris
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:15, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: That would be disastrous. In the UK this would preclude investigating anyone who has anything to do with the state in order to avoid endangering the university's funding. And in general it would turn journalism from the

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Steve Jolly
Brian Butterworth wrote: And then there's that gizmo, the one that can deliver the Sun to white van man cheaply and reliably. The radio? S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Brian Butterworth
That was quick of them... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/may/12/thetimes.bskyb 2009/3/17 John O'Donovan john.odono...@bbc.co.uk I like Brian's suggestion of Times TV and Sky News in a newsroom mash-up. The thought has not passed them by entirely, though they offer different types of

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Sean DALY
A key characteristic of a newspaper is that you can fold it up. Foldable or rollable screens may yet arrive in the next few years, I vaguely recall Samsung and Sony showing proof-of-concept and prototypes the last year. The Touch Book by Always Innovating is creating buzz, you leave the keyboard

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Steve Jolly
Brian Butterworth wrote: It is very noticeable that WVM is not a DAB user... I was actually thinking of cross between a Kindle and an etch-a-sketch that can be dropped onto a road, get covered in cement dust and will still allow page 3 to be read.Something with an interface so simple

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: A key characteristic of a newspaper is that you can fold it up. Foldable or rollable screens may yet arrive in the next few years, I vaguely recall Samsung and Sony showing proof-of-concept and prototypes the last year. If

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Brian Butterworth
It is very noticeable that WVM is not a DAB user... I was actually thinking of cross between a Kindle and an etch-a-sketch that can be dropped onto a road, get covered in cement dust and will still allow page 3 to be read.Something with an interface so simple that it can be operated by anyone

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/3/17 Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv: That was quick of them... Monday 12 May? Looks like you've been stealing others' intellectual property, Brian! :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

RE: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread John O'Donovan
It would be a fascinating thing to see how a Times / Sky TV News would work together on a single proposition and which brand considered themselves stronger and most relevant. ::: John O'Donovan ::: Chief Architect, BBC FMT Journalism ::: BBC Broadcast Centre ::: 201 Wood Lane, London

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Brian Butterworth
Sorry, I had a Brianstorm... 2009/3/17 Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com 2009/3/17 Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv: That was quick of them... Monday 12 May? Looks like you've been stealing others' intellectual property, Brian! :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group.

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Sean DALY
Yes, it is indeed a pity that OLPC doesn't make XO-1s easily available outside of the annual G1G1 programme. However, that could change as they have recently decided to deploy widely in the USA and not just developing countries. I have two XO-1s from the previous G1G1s and a third I picked up on

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Sean DALY
Network bridge when traveling with the kids... I have patched into the hotel Internet with the Ethernet adapter on one of the XO-1s then meshed them; I surfed on one while the kids surfed on the other (in the next room over), and when it was bedtime I knocked on the wall one minute before cutting

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-17 Thread Richard P Edwards
I would tend to agree with you Tom. The fun side of this discussion is that most of the opinions are factual, yet as with the press, many of them will not be true once these changes have passed, especially those with a spoonful of fear factor. I can remember the uproar in the Docklands when