Re: [backstage] Full UK postcode location file turns up on Wikileaks: is that useful?

2009-09-17 Thread Brian Butterworth
2009/9/16 Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org On 16 Sep 2009, at 18:53, Tim Dobson wrote: What do people think? Reminds me of when some of the Windows 2000 code was leaked - if anything the leak was worse than useless, since the open-source projects that could have benefited from it obviously

Re: [backstage] Full UK postcode location file turns up on Wikileaks: is that useful?

2009-09-17 Thread Paul Webster
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:26:55 +0100, you wrote: 2009/9/16 Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org On 16 Sep 2009, at 18:53, Tim Dobson wrote: What do people think? Reminds me of when some of the Windows 2000 code was leaked - if anything the leak was worse than useless, since the open-source

Re: [backstage] Full UK postcode location file turns up on Wikileaks: is that useful?

2009-09-17 Thread Brian Butterworth
Paul, Yes, I suspect you are technically right. My feelings on the matter as they have always been. It would be good for the country as a whole for this data to be public, rather than being charged for. I have never heard a rational argument for data that is about the public domain not being in

Re: [backstage] Full UK postcode location file turns up on Wikileaks: is that useful?

2009-09-17 Thread Barry Hunter
On 17/09/2009, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Paul, Yes, I suspect you are technically right. My feelings on the matter as they have always been. It would be good for the country as a whole for this data to be public, rather than being charged for. I have never heard a

Re: [backstage] Full UK postcode location file turns up on Wikileaks: is that useful?

2009-09-17 Thread Brian Butterworth
2009/9/17 Barry Hunter ba...@barryhunter.co.uk On 17/09/2009, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Paul, Yes, I suspect you are technically right. My feelings on the matter as they have always been. It would be good for the country as a whole for this data to be public,

[backstage] Pure Sensia

2009-09-17 Thread Steve Jolly
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/09/17/pure-sensia-digital-radio-first-look/ Linux-based radio with touchscreen and app support. Not sure I like the styling and it's a bit pricey, but it's an interesting product, certainly... Since it has Twitter support, no doubt certain members of this

Re: [backstage] Pure Sensia

2009-09-17 Thread Paul Webster
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:42:20 +0100, you wrote: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/09/17/pure-sensia-digital-radio-first-look/ Linux-based radio with touchscreen and app support. Not sure I like the styling and it's a bit pricey, but it's an interesting product, certainly... Since it has

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Frankie Roberto
2009/9/16 Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/15/bbc-wants-to-put-drm.html BBC wants to put DRM on the TV Brits are forced to pay for It's worth noting that this applies ONLY to HD DTV (Freeview), which barely even exists yet. So don't throw away your

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Frankie Roberto
2009/9/17 Frankie Roberto fran...@frankieroberto.com It's worth noting that this applies ONLY to HD DTV (Freeview), which barely even exists yet. So don't throw away your Freeview boxes just yet. I can't see a switchover from Freeview to Freeview HD happening any time soon... This is some

RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Christopher Woods
Moreover, you just *know* that within months of any broadcast flag implementation, the more creative technological tinkerers will have subverted the flag entirely using commonplace/free equipment and software. Like region coding, broadcast flags really are an exercise in stupidity and corporate

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Frankie Roberto
2009/9/17 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk Moreover, you just *know* that within months of any broadcast flag implementation, the more creative technological tinkerers will have subverted the flag entirely using commonplace/free equipment and software. Like region coding, broadcast

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Alun Rowe
Will we ever see HD freeview though? The bandwidth requirement would be enormous. On 17 Sep 2009, at 16:53, Frankie Roberto fran...@frankieroberto.com wrote: 2009/9/17 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk Moreover, you just *know* that within months of any broadcast flag

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Ant Miller
Freeview and freeview+ (as the DVB-T2 carried HD mux is to be called) will exist in parallel- the number of muxes will drop from 6 to 5, one will go to DVB-t2, the other 4 will up their capacity with a little tweak and reshuffled channels from the flipped mux will be shared around them. The New

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Simon Thompson
Ofcom is going to use Multiplex B (vacated by the BBC) to provide DVB-T2 HD services. First region on air is Granada later this year. 2009/9/17 Alun Rowe alun.r...@pentangle.co.uk Will we ever see HD freeview though? The bandwidth requirement would be enormous. On 17 Sep 2009, at 16:53,

RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Gareth Davis
Ant Miller wrote: Freeview and freeview+ (as the DVB-T2 carried HD mux is to be called) will exist in parallel- the number of muxes will drop from 6 to 5, one will go to DVB-t2, the other 4 will up their capacity with a little tweak and reshuffled channels from the flipped mux will be

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Ant Miller
You'll need to retune, but the services you currently get on Freeview should still be available. Think of Freeview + as an optional upgrade. a On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Alun Rowe alun.r...@pentangle.co.uk wrote: I assume my topfield HD will be out of date with these proposed changes?

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Alun Rowe
I meant in terms of the HD element if they are changing the spec? If there is a decryption requirement I doubt the Topfield will have it? On 17 Sep 2009, at 17:52, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: You'll need to retune, but the services you currently get on Freeview should still be

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Ant Miller
I don't know the topfield box, but it's unlikely it can decode the new carrier mode. h.264 it might be able to handle, but it would be a surprise. So no, the HD will need a new box. Optional upgrade, not a free upgrade! Though the broadcast service will remain free to air. a On Thu, Sep 17,

Freeview HD vs existing HDMI upscaling freeview boxes (was RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?)

2009-09-17 Thread Brendan Quinn
Alan wrote: I assume my topfield HD will be out of date with these proposed changes? Ant replied: You'll need to retune, but the services you currently get on Freeview should still be available. Think of Freeview + as an optional upgrade. To which Alun wrote: I meant in terms of the HD

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 17:29, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Keeping audiences happy as DSO happens and Freeview+ rolls out is a critical task, I think that there's going to be a lot of unhappy freeview HDTV owners wondering why the TV they have recently bought isn't picking up the

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Mr I Forrester
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 22:04 +0100, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: I think that there's going to be a lot of unhappy freeview HDTV owners wondering why the TV they have recently bought isn't picking up the new HD channels when they're launched (especially as the TV was probably sold as HD

RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Christopher Woods
I think that there's going to be a lot of unhappy freeview HDTV owners wondering why the TV they have recently bought isn't picking up the new HD channels when they're launched (especially as the TV was probably sold as HD Ready). Prime opportunity to flog another STB / CAM to correctly

RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Mr I Forrester
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 15:50 +0100, Christopher Woods wrote: Moreover, you just *know* that within months of any broadcast flag implementation, the more creative technological tinkerers will have subverted the flag entirely using commonplace/free equipment and software. Like region coding,

Re: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?

2009-09-17 Thread Nick Morrott
On 18/09/2009, Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 22:04 +0100, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: I think that there's going to be a lot of unhappy freeview HDTV owners wondering why the TV they have recently bought isn't picking up the new HD channels