Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
2010/1/26 Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com For 720p25 you might need more than 3.5Mbps for more demanding scenes. (Except increasing the bitrate or using a better encoder will make iPlayer look better than the broadcast...) You do get an awful lot better results when you are not compressing

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 08:20, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: You do get an awful lot better results when you are not compressing in real time, of course, because you can use all the MPEG4 forward references, the ones you don't get when you real time encode. that's a good

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Kieran Kunhya
For 720p25 you might need more than 3.5Mbps for more demanding scenes. (Except increasing the bitrate or using a better encoder will make iPlayer look better than the broadcast...) You do get an awful lot better results when you are not compressing in real time, of course, because you can

[backstage] Radio 4 PM Upshares Downshares themes...

2010-01-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
For those with both a serious Eddie Marr habit and also have iPhones and Droids needing ringtones, here's the 82 versions as downloadable links... http://www.ukfree.tv/pm/ (donations to http://www.dec.org.uk/item/200 please) -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter:

RE: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Andrew Bowden
From: Brian Butterworth On DVB-T it is everything. BBC One used to have reserved bandwidth, but is now statmuxed with everything else. My assumption is the BBC delivers motion-JPEG to the regional encoders and the services are statmuxed from there. Don't know the gory technical details,

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Ian Stirling
Kieran Kunhya wrote: For 720p25 you might need more than 3.5Mbps for more demanding scenes. (Except increasing the bitrate or using a better encoder will make iPlayer look better than the broadcast...) You do get an awful lot better results when you are not compressing in real time, of course,

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 27 Jan 2010, at 08:31, Mo McRoberts wrote: that's a good point: I wonder how much of the broadcast output *is* encoded in real-time? all of it? I believe so. after all, live programming is in the minority on BBC1-4, and assuming things sit on sensible boundaries and are pre-packetised,

RE: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Christopher Woods
On 27 Jan 2010, at 08:31, Mo McRoberts wrote: that's a good point: I wonder how much of the broadcast output *is* encoded in real-time? all of it? I believe so. Not unless they've changed their previous policy of ingesting popular / headline shows prior to their airing, then making

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 27 Jan 2010, at 11:59, Christopher Woods wrote: On 27 Jan 2010, at 08:31, Mo McRoberts wrote: that's a good point: I wonder how much of the broadcast output *is* encoded in real-time? all of it? I believe so. Not unless they've changed their previous policy of ingesting popular /

RE: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Christopher Woods
That's on-demand content, not broadcast. The two are encoded via separate systems. Were we not talking about the iPlayer videos?... derp sidles off - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Dave Crossland
Well exactly, there are THREE main desktops, and one doesn't and wont have h264 preinstalled. This wouldn't be a problem if The Guardian and other news broadcasters stopped bystanding and made the videos they publish available in Xiph formats earlier; they continue to squander their significant

[backstage] iPad

2010-01-27 Thread Mo McRoberts
So, what does everyone think? (and how much effect will it have on the video situation over the next 18 months or so, do we reckon?) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-27 Thread Steff
2010/1/27 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net: So, what does everyone think? (and how much effect will it have on the video situation over the next 18 months or so, do we reckon?) It's just a big iPhone AFAICT*. Popularising the idea that not everything runs Flash might be educate some web

RE: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-27 Thread Christopher Woods
-Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts Sent: 27 January 2010 22:38 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] iPad So, what does everyone think? (disclaimer: I generally hate Apple