Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-19 Thread Brian Butterworth
-- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Andy *Sent:* Sat 18/08/2007 20:41 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest On 18/08/07, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No again. The *real* way to provide a platform

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2007-08-19 Thread Matthew Cashmore
: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest Matt, I have to say that most of the people here are actually very, very, very supportive of the BBC, and are being critical friends. If you stop listening to people who are talking sense, logic and rationally there won't be a BBC anymore

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-18 Thread Andy
On 15/08/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact that iPlayer doesn't work on (Doctorow's figure) 25% of computer users' computers is irrelevent. You can't use it at all if you haven't got a computer, it won't run on your fridge I could if you released the specs and I put a

RE: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-18 Thread Matt Hardiman
to this email... so sorry about that goodbye all - it WAS good... regards m From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Andy Sent: Sat 18/08/2007 20:41 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-16 Thread Brian Butterworth
Hurah, we are back to non-zero sum! On 15/08/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/08/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a drinks company is giving away a can of drink free at a railway station (which happens), does that entitle you to go into Sainsburys and

RE: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-16 Thread Andrew Bowden
On 15/08/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a drinks company is giving away a can of drink free at a railway station (which happens), does that entitle you to go into Sainsburys and take one without paying

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-16 Thread Brian Butterworth
Andrew, Please don't take it the wrong way, but you seem to have a strange idea of what a discussion is about Have you not been sent to BBC re-education camp yet? By saying That's all I'm going to stay. There is no point in even debating the subject you make Auntie seem like Fox News! On

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-16 Thread vijay chopra
On 16/08/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The general population have an interesting respect laws and rules - demand complete and total implementation of the ones they really like, whilst ignoring the ones they don't. You only have to look at how many people break the speed limit

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-15 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore Sent: 14 August 2007 16:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design

RE: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-15 Thread Ian Forrester
Subject: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest From the backstage blog http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/08

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-15 Thread Tim Cowlishaw
On 8/15/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Utter, utter rubbish, that whole piece. Would you care to give us a slightly more reasoned critique, Richard? despite Cory's apparent predeliction for Soviet-Union-based metaphors (check out his other DRM article for the Guardian), i

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-15 Thread Richard Lockwood
August 2007 10:42 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest I need to make a confession – it appears that I uploaded a non-finished version of the interview to blip – it contained a fade halfway through Peter Brown's interview

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-15 Thread Matthew Cashmore
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore Sent: 15 August 2007 10:42 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest I need to make a confession ­ it appears that I uploaded a non-finished version

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-15 Thread Richard Lockwood
Certainly. From my occasional online journal... He's arguing that the BBC's use of DRM in its new iPlayer service will legitimise the spread of DRM - at least I think that's what he's thinks he's arguing. Actually, it's a reason-free rant against DRM from the Everything should be free and

RE: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-15 Thread Andrew Bowden
Well for me iPlayer will legitimise BitTorrent, as soon as it's out of Beta, I will feel no moral obligation not to download the latest Dr Who, or whatever (I do currently; I've never torrented a TV programme). After all, the BBC will then be giving content away free on demand, I'll

Re: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-15 Thread vijay chopra
On 15/08/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a drinks company is giving away a can of drink free at a railway station (which happens), does that entitle you to go into Sainsburys and take one without paying for it? No, that would be stealing, I would be depriving the original

[backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-14 Thread Matthew Cashmore
From the backstage blog http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/08/defective_by_de.html ³It was a very wet morning but that didn't stop around 20 people turning out to let the BBC know exactly what they thought of its use of DRM in iPlayer. We've pulled those comments together and made a

RE: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest

2007-08-14 Thread Ian Forrester
Sent: 14 August 2007 16:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] From the front lines... Defective By Design Protest From the backstage blog http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/08/defective_by_de.html