Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-28 Thread James Ockenden
i would like a data feed of all the BBC Have Your Say responses which have a) been most recommended and b) feature a large amount of capital letters (eg BOYCOTT CHINA). That way, you could launch a very low cost newspaper to rival the Daily Express/Mail without any real journalism. And thank-you n

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-28 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 28/09/2007, Richard Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's possibly a bit of a sledgehammer / nut scenario for a poll like > "What should we call the Tikkabilla ("Play School" for you other > oldies...) hamster?". > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. You tell that to Socks and Cookie! I can'

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-28 Thread Richard Lockwood
That's possibly a bit of a sledgehammer / nut scenario for a poll like "What should we call the Tikkabilla ("Play School" for you other oldies...) hamster?". :-) Cheers, Rich. On 9/28/07, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin, > > On 26/09/2007, Martin Belam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-28 Thread Brian Butterworth
a confidence level (as a percentage) as to the reliablity of the result... > martin > > > > > -- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth > *Sent:* 26 September 2007 17:15 > *To:*

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 27/09/2007, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 26/09/2007, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Remember that ALL the voting where you are asked to pay for the call or > > text are simply revenue collection systems, not statistically valid ones. > > The "adjudic

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-27 Thread vijay chopra
On 26/09/2007, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remember that ALL the voting where you are asked to pay for the call or > text are simply revenue collection systems, not statistically valid ones. > The "adjudicators" (on Big Brother for example) simple verify that the > number of c

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-27 Thread Martin Belam
Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 26 September 2007 22:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas My apologies... I was in a class of four people in the sixth form that did a Statistics A-Level On 26/09/2007, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Brian Butterworth
My apologies... I was in a class of four people in the sixth form that did a Statistics A-Level On 26/09/2007, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 26/09/2007, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Leaving the last digit from the last octet out would be fine, tho

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Brian Butterworth
thanks for pointing it out. I used to be Senior Producer on > Online Voting at the BBC for a couple of years, and so I have some quite > strong opinions about when it is right to run an online vote and when the > correct reaction is "You did *what*?" - most of those views are probabl

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Gordon Joly
At 17:40 +0100 26/9/07, Martin Belam wrote: No I hadn't, thanks for pointing it out. I used to be Senior Producer on Online Voting at the BBC for a couple of years, and so I have some quite strong opinions about when it is right to run an online vote and when the correct reaction is "You did *w

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread vijay chopra
On 26/09/2007, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Leaving the last digit from the last octet out would be fine, though? > Then you could group by IP addresses for purposes like fraud checking and > suchlike. I'm sure the BBC sites always say that standard information such > as browse

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Christopher Woods
ijay chopra Sent: 26 September 2007 18:54 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas Whilst I applaud your effort, I inherently distrust online polls, and cs disclaimed on a site that we're all familiar with: "This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread vijay chopra
Whilst I applaud your effort, I inherently distrust online polls, and cs disclaimed on a site that we're all familiar with: "This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane." So t

RE: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Martin Belam
e probably more suited to the pub than this mailing list ;-) martin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 26 September 2007 17:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas Ma

Re: [backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Brian Butterworth
Martin, Did you read this? http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/comment/0,,2175214,00.html Comment -- If you think the nation decides, think again Via phone-in, vote and blog, a vocal minority appears to be speaking for the silent majority *Carol Sarler Sunday Sep

[backstage] Voting data ideas

2007-09-26 Thread Martin Belam
Hi all, I have my BBC hat back on at the moment, and one of the things I am working on is a project to do with online voting and ratings. Part of my brief is to explore how the BBC might utilise and re-use information and data gathered via voting, and hopefully make a business case for releasing i