[backstage] Where should I suggest that the BBC could their feeds?

2005-11-29 Thread Brian Butterworth
I had a idea about BBC News's channel using these feeds...  Where should I
post it?

I was watching BBC News 24 this week and there was a feature about sudden
snow on Bodmin Moor, Cornwall.  One woman said there was nothing on the
news about it, and it occurred to me that if she was watching News 24, she
was probably right.

News 24 has a variety of Astons (graphics), but I was thinking about the
scrolling bar at the bottom of the screen.  I don't know how integrated News
24 and BBC Online are I don't know if the scroller is driven from one of
the backstage RSS feeds, but it should be! 

This grey/blue visual bar with white text is added somewhere to the studio
output by some box of tricks - usually a PC. 

News 24 doesn't have the regional variations that BBC ONE does  - it has
always been  distributed identically to satellite, cable and Freeview.  

Sadly, as all dishes point at the same satellite, regionalisation is
unfeasible.  

On Freeview, the channel's programs are transmitted in the same digital
terrestrial multiplex that has a national or regional versions of BBC ONE on
Freeview.  It the similar on cable. 

So, my idea is to program a box of tricks to overlay a customized RSS-fed
scroller for each of the nations (Wales, Scotland, NI) and English regional
variations (for Birmingham, Manchester, Hull, Leeds, Nottingham, Norwich,
Cambridge, Bristol, Tunbridge Wells, Southampton, Plymouth, Newcastle,
Oxford, London and the Channel Islands).

So you would see your own local news, sport and weather in vision.  Then
follow with the current headlines, sport etc.

So the 6 million Freeview homes could get their local news first - with snow
warnings where necessary!   

Where can I suggest this?



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RE: [backstage] Where should I suggest that the BBC could their feeds?

2005-11-29 Thread Jason Cartwright
This is already happening, kind of...

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds23575.html

The data for this works in a similar fashion to how your describing it,
except a BBCNewsFeed XML format is used instead of RSS and it feeds an
Interactive TV platform.

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So, my idea is to program a box of tricks to overlay a customized
RSS-fed scroller for each of the nations (Wales, Scotland, NI) and
English regional variations (for Birmingham, Manchester, Hull, Leeds,
Nottingham, Norwich, Cambridge, Bristol, Tunbridge Wells, Southampton,
Plymouth, Newcastle, Oxford, London and the Channel Islands).

So you would see your own local news, sport and weather in vision.  Then
follow with the current headlines, sport etc.

So the 6 million Freeview homes could get their local news first - with
snow
warnings where necessary!   

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RE: [backstage] Where should I suggest that the BBC could their feeds?

2005-11-29 Thread Kim Plowright
GENIUS idea.

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feeds?


I had a idea about BBC News's channel using these feeds...  Where should
I post it?

I was watching BBC News 24 this week and there was a feature about
sudden snow on Bodmin Moor, Cornwall.  One woman said there was nothing
on the news about it, and it occurred to me that if she was watching
News 24, she was probably right.

News 24 has a variety of Astons (graphics), but I was thinking about the
scrolling bar at the bottom of the screen.  I don't know how integrated
News 24 and BBC Online are I don't know if the scroller is driven from
one of the backstage RSS feeds, but it should be! 

This grey/blue visual bar with white text is added somewhere to the
studio output by some box of tricks - usually a PC. 

News 24 doesn't have the regional variations that BBC ONE does  - it has
always been  distributed identically to satellite, cable and Freeview.  

Sadly, as all dishes point at the same satellite, regionalisation is
unfeasible.  

On Freeview, the channel's programs are transmitted in the same digital
terrestrial multiplex that has a national or regional versions of BBC
ONE on Freeview.  It the similar on cable. 

So, my idea is to program a box of tricks to overlay a customized
RSS-fed scroller for each of the nations (Wales, Scotland, NI) and
English regional variations (for Birmingham, Manchester, Hull, Leeds,
Nottingham, Norwich, Cambridge, Bristol, Tunbridge Wells, Southampton,
Plymouth, Newcastle, Oxford, London and the Channel Islands).

So you would see your own local news, sport and weather in vision.  Then
follow with the current headlines, sport etc.

So the 6 million Freeview homes could get their local news first - with
snow
warnings where necessary!   

Where can I suggest this?



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Re: [backstage] RSS feeds for what's on now/next

2005-11-29 Thread Mario Menti
On 11/29/05, Michael Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd seen the same thing on the backstage site and submitted a comment to point to my now  next feed builder @ 
http://tv.blueghost.co.uk/nn.php
Yes, comment moderation (and prototype submission) on the backstage site seem to be a little on the slow side... hint hint :-)

e.g for channels bbc1,bbc2,itv1,c4,five you get 
http://tv.blueghost.co.uk/feeds/rss/nnp/1+2+32+33+30There is a feed builder at the top of the page, or individual feeds for each channel. I've got mine to work on 
google.com/ig but occasionally get the same error message but can't get it to work on yahoo or 
live.com. Again any suggestions welcomed.
Cool - now we have rss2 feeds that work on Google, and Atom feeds that
work on yahoo and live.com... I'll have a closer look over the next few
days, would be nice to get everything to work everywhere. Talking of
Google, strangely my Atom feeds work perfectlly well in the Google RSS
reader (reader.google.com), but not on the google personalised home
page..

Cheers,
Mario.



Re: [backstage] RSS feeds for what's on now/next

2005-11-29 Thread Mario Menti
On 11/29/05, Jem Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Mario. This is great stuff. In response to someone's Idea posted on the backstage site, I've made some very simple Atom RSS feeds available that show what's on now/next on BBC TV channels.
I've got em working in a number of places on live.com etc but you'reright. No luck on google/ig/ Also. The nownext complete feed doesn't
seem to be picking up the data for cbbc and cbeebies ??
nice one.Jem, backstage team
Thanks Jem,

are you sure the last issue (not picking up cbcc/cbeebies) isn't
just down to the number of items the aggregator displays? All entries have
the same created timestamp (the time the feed xml was generated), so
I guess if an aggregator was to display the last 5 items in a feed, it
would just pick the top 5 entries in the feed.

Re. google/ig, as I just mentioned in the previous post, the feeds work
fine with the google rss reader (reader.google.com). I even copied the
xml content from a blogger atom feed that works in my personalised home
page, copied it into a static xml file on my menti.name server, and
tried to add that same file to google.com/ig, and it didn't work. So
there must be something server-side (content-type or other headers?
etc.) rather than the actual xml format that makes a difference..

Thanks,
Mario.