Re: [backstage] Google Mashups

2006-03-07 Thread Alistair Rutherford
http://tubejp.co.uk/

Nice! This is one of the best I've seen.

For those interested in this sort of thing the site
uses what appear to be the Google map tiles for the
tube area but recoloured and with the tube lines drawn
on them at the appropriate zoom levels. These are
overlayed on the map instead of the usual ones.
H..terms and conditions.not sure this is
allowed but it looks great.

Al.

www.gTraffic.info

--- Darren Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 11:25:51PM -, Ben
> O'Neill wrote:
> > Dharmesh,
> > 
> > If you're still looking, here's another made by a
> friend of mine:
> > http://www.pete-b.co.uk/maps/ 
> > 
> > If you stick to England and football grounds you
> won't have a problem ;)
> > 
> > I did have a mashup with all the London
> underground stations + tube lines
> > marked that did shortest path finding across the
> network but the database
> > got nuked.
> 
> Take a look at:
> 
> http://tubejp.co.uk/
> 
> > 
> > -- Ben
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Dharmesh Raithatha
> > Sent: 03 March 2006 12:44
> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > Subject: RE: [backstage] Google Mashups
> > 
> > I found one. Tagzania.
> > 
> > I was thinking about a local reporting idea where
> users submit reports and
> > can use google maps to select where the report is
> located which would then
> > bring up a form with the location coordinates
> prepopulated. 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Dharmesh
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Alistair Rutherford
> > Sent: 03 March 2006 11:44
> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Mashups
> > 
> > Dharmesh,
> > 
> > Not sure I understand what you mean by 'web
> request'?
> > 
> > Can you describe an example?
> > 
> > Al.
> > 
> > www.gTraffic.info
> > 
> > --- Dharmesh Raithatha
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey folks
> > > 
> > > Has anyone got an example of a good googlemasup
> where you can click on
> > 
> > > the map to make a web request with the location
> clicked on?
> > > 
> > > Dharmesh
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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> > > Sent: 02 March 2006 21:07
> > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > > Subject: [backstage] Mood News - Good News
> > > 
> > > Hey Folks,
> > > 
> > > Quiet around here isn't it ? :-)
> > > 
> > > I am planning a re-org of the Mood News site and
> as a little starter 
> > > put together a page of 'good' news.
> > > 
> > >
> http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/good.html
> > > 
> > > There's no link from the main page (yet).
> > > 
> > > Also the Google module is now in the directory:
> > > http://www.google.com/ig/directory?q=mood+news
> > > 
> > > Take care,
> > > Davy Mitchell
> > > 
> > > Mood News
> > >  - BBC News Headlines Auto-Classified as   Good,
>  
> > > Bad or   Neutral.
> > >  http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/
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Re: [backstage] Today's TV-Anytime tar is broken

2006-03-07 Thread Adam Leach

Hi,

Is there any news of this as there doesn't appear to be a file for today :-(

Appart from this problem, the data is really great and I'm currently 
hacking Perl TV::Anytime to make use of the additional data that is 
hidden in these files.  I'm make a patch available once it is fully 
working.


Adam

Quoting Mario Menti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hi there,

looks like today's TV-Anytime tar file (20060306.tar.gz at
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/[1]) is broken - could

someone fix and

replace it?

Thanks,
Mario.




Links:
--
[1] 
/horde/services/go.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbackstage.bbc.co.uk%2Ffeeds%2Ftvradio%2F


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Re: [backstage] Today's TV-Anytime tar is broken

2006-03-07 Thread Hywel Williams

At 11:26 07/03/2006 +, you wrote:

Hi,

Is there any news of this as there doesn't appear to be a file for today :-(

Appart from this problem, the data is really great and I'm currently 
hacking Perl TV::Anytime to make use of the additional data that is hidden 
in these files.  I'm make a patch available once it is fully working.


There appears to be a problem with the FTP link used to get the data from 
the database machine to the web site itself.  I've flagged the problem to 
our internet services people - hopefully the problem will be resolved 
soon.  It seems to have corrupted yesterday's upload and completely failed 
on today's.


Hywel

I tried a manual push - that also failed. 


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RE: [backstage] Today's TV-Anytime tar is broken

2006-03-07 Thread Murray Walker

> looks like today's TV-Anytime tar file (20060306.tar.gz at 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/) is broken - 
> could someone fix and replace it?

consider a ticket opened, and people on the case.

eta for fix : probably tomorrow.  apologies.  

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Re: [backstage] Google Mashups

2006-03-07 Thread Gordon Joly

At 11:12 + 5/3/06, Darren Clark wrote:



Take a look at:

http://tubejp.co.uk/



Simplicity itself. And stuffed full of information. Brilliant!

I like the reality of the tube lines. We are so used to Mr. Beck's view...

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Re: [backstage] Google Mashups

2006-03-07 Thread Dom Ramsey

On 7 Mar 2006, at 12:30, Gordon Joly wrote:


http://tubejp.co.uk/



Simplicity itself. And stuffed full of information. Brilliant!

I like the reality of the tube lines. We are so used to Mr. Beck's  
view...


It's very cool and pretty, although it almost certainly breaks the  
terms of use - the map tiles appear to be edited versions of the  
original Google Maps / Tele Atlas tiles, and no credit is given.


I have the locations of Tube stations on my old mashup - http:// 
www.dynamite.co.uk/local/ - I keep meaning to add the actual routes  
in, but I've not had the time.


Dom
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Re: [backstage] Google Mashups

2006-03-07 Thread Jonathan Stott

Dom Ramsey wrote:

I have the locations of Tube stations on my old mashup - http:// 
www.dynamite.co.uk/local/ - I keep meaning to add the actual routes  
in, but I've not had the time.



I did this a while ago (I have a lot of metro map datasets for research 
I am doing for my PhD). Here's the London one:


http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/

And Madrid:

http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/madrid.php

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Re: [backstage] Google Mashups

2006-03-07 Thread Dave Cross

Jonathan Stott wrote:

Dom Ramsey wrote:

I have the locations of Tube stations on my old mashup - http:// 
www.dynamite.co.uk/local/ - I keep meaning to add the actual routes  
in, but I've not had the time.


I did this a while ago (I have a lot of metro map datasets for research 
I am doing for my PhD). Here's the London one:


http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/


Very cool, but if I can be pedantic for one second, it looks to me as 
tho' you have the central line station at Shepherd's Bush in the wrong 
place. It's really on the north side of the green very close to the big 
roundabout. That way trains don't have make the hairpin bend that you're 
currently showing :)


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RE: [backstage] Google Mashups

2006-03-07 Thread Andrew Bowden
> > I did this a while ago (I have a lot of metro map datasets for 
> > research I am doing for my PhD). Here's the London one:
> > http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/
> Very cool, but if I can be pedantic for one second, it looks 
> to me as tho' you have the central line station at Shepherd's 
> Bush in the wrong place. It's really on the north side of the 
> green very close to the big roundabout. That way trains don't 
> have make the hairpin bend that you're currently showing :)

I think the station's actually roundabout the right place - maybe it's
actually a smidge to the left, but not much and the line does go round
some very sharp corners between Shepherds Bush and White City on the
Central Line (until they changed things recently, you used to get a huge
amount of loud schreeching as the tube went round the corners!)

However all is not totally accurate in the Bush!  The H&C line station
needs to be a bit further up - the platforms are visible on the images
Google.




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[backstage] IM Persian news bot

2006-03-07 Thread Mario Menti
Following a conversation with Dan Brickley, who pointed me to Ian Forrester's post on BBC Persian being filtered in Iran (see 


http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/?permalink=BBC-Persian-filtered-out-of-Iran-what-can-we-do.html), I am now running a first version of a Persian (Farsi) news bot, along similar lines as the newsflash bots. As Dan suggested, this could be one additional means of bypassing the Iranian firewall...
Currently the bot is only running on MSN, and although I managed to get the right-to-left issue to work using the official MSN client (in my case Windows Live Messenger beta), it seems that not all 3rd party clients support the "X-MMS-IM-Format" field (where I set the R-to-L orientation), so for example Trillian ignores it and displays the messages incorrectly L-to-R. I haven't tried other clients yet.
I don't speak/read Farsi or Arabic, so can't really tell if the content is ok (although I compared it visually to what's on the BBC website to get some idea). I use the nearly-full-text feed at 

http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml (I believe Ian set that up?), and have noticed some strange HTML tags in the feeds, all of which (rightly or wrongly) also make it into the bot messages.. in addition, the menu-type texts are all in English for now, and should really be translated.
The bot is on MSN as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Once you join, you'll get the 10 most recent news headlines from 

http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml every hour, to which you can respond with a number (1 to 10) to see more details for the news headline you're interested in (I decided to change this from the way the English news flashes work due to the feeds containing much more text, so it wasn't practical to send all news details in one message).
No guarantees as to bot uptime etc, but as ever, feedback appreciated!Mario.




Re: [backstage] Google Mashups

2006-03-07 Thread Dave Cross

Andrew Bowden wrote:
I did this a while ago (I have a lot of metro map datasets for 
research I am doing for my PhD). Here's the London one:

http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/
Very cool, but if I can be pedantic for one second, it looks 
to me as tho' you have the central line station at Shepherd's 
Bush in the wrong place. It's really on the north side of the 
green very close to the big roundabout. That way trains don't 
have make the hairpin bend that you're currently showing :)


I think the station's actually roundabout the right place


Well, it is now that Jonathan has moved it :)

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RE: [backstage] Google Mashups

2006-03-07 Thread Andrew Bowden
> Well, it is now that Jonathan has moved it :)

You know, that might explain it :)

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[backstage] Re: IM Persian news bot

2006-03-07 Thread Mario Menti
I really have to get something better than my cheap VPS seems just minutes after posting this, the server has some DNS issues and can't see the outside world.Sorry about this, will update you when it's solved...
On 3/7/06, Mario Menti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Following a conversation with Dan Brickley, who pointed me to Ian Forrester's post on BBC Persian being filtered in Iran (see 



http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/?permalink=BBC-Persian-filtered-out-of-Iran-what-can-we-do.html), I am now running a first version of a Persian (Farsi) news bot, along similar lines as the newsflash bots. As Dan suggested, this could be one additional means of bypassing the Iranian firewall...
Currently the bot is only running on MSN, and although I managed to get the right-to-left issue to work using the official MSN client (in my case Windows Live Messenger beta), it seems that not all 3rd party clients support the "X-MMS-IM-Format" field (where I set the R-to-L orientation), so for example Trillian ignores it and displays the messages incorrectly L-to-R. I haven't tried other clients yet.
I don't speak/read Farsi or Arabic, so can't really tell if the content is ok (although I compared it visually to what's on the BBC website to get some idea). I use the nearly-full-text feed at 


http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml (I believe Ian set that up?), and have noticed some strange HTML tags in the feeds, all of which (rightly or wrongly) also make it into the bot messages.. in addition, the menu-type texts are all in English for now, and should really be translated.
The bot is on MSN as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Once you join, you'll get the 10 most recent news headlines from 

http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml every hour, to which you can respond with a number (1 to 10) to see more details for the news headline you're interested in (I decided to change this from the way the English news flashes work due to the feeds containing much more text, so it wasn't practical to send all news details in one message).
No guarantees as to bot uptime etc, but as ever, feedback appreciated!Mario.






[backstage] Re: IM Persian news bot

2006-03-07 Thread Mario Menti
Back now... touch wood! Some iptables screw-up, hoping it will stay up..Mario.On 3/7/06, Mario Menti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:I really have to get something better than my cheap VPS seems just minutes after posting this, the server has some DNS issues and can't see the outside world.
Sorry about this, will update you when it's solved...



[backstage] RE: IM Persian news bot

2006-03-07 Thread Ian Forrester



 

  
  
  From: Mario Menti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 07 March 2006 14:40To: 
  backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ian 
  ForresterSubject: IM Persian news bot
  
  Following a conversation with Dan Brickley, who pointed me to Ian 
  Forrester's post on BBC Persian being filtered in Iran (see http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/?permalink=BBC-Persian-filtered-out-of-Iran-what-can-we-do.html), 
  I am now running a first version of a Persian (Farsi) news bot, along similar 
  lines as the newsflash bots. As Dan suggested, this could be one additional 
  means of bypassing the Iranian firewall...  
  
  Sounds like a good idea ;) I'll let the Persian service know, as they might be very 
  interested in your news bot.
  Currently the bot is only running on MSN, and although I managed 
  to get the right-to-left issue to work using the official MSN client (in my 
  case Windows Live Messenger beta), it seems that not all 3rd party clients 
  support the "X-MMS-IM-Format" field (where I set the R-to-L orientation), so 
  for example Trillian ignores it and displays the messages incorrectly L-to-R. 
  I haven't tried other clients yet.  
  
  Interesting issue, I'm trying it in Gaim which has great 
  Unicode and multiple language support. I don't 
  speak/read Farsi or Arabic, so can't really tell if the content is ok 
  (although I compared it visually to what's on the BBC website to get some 
  idea). I use the nearly-full-text feed at http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml (I believe Ian set 
  that up?), and have noticed some strange HTML tags in the feeds, all of which 
  (rightly or wrongly) also make it into the bot messages.. in addition, the 
  menu-type texts are all in English for now, and should really be 
  translated.  
  
  Maybe if I speak to someone in the Persian service they might 
  be able to let you know if it looks and reads 
  correctly. 
  Can you let me 
  know what tags your getting as I might be outputting too 
  much. The bot is on MSN as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Once you join, you'll get the 10 
  most recent news headlines from http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml every hour, to 
  which you can respond with a number (1 to 10) to see more details for the news 
  headline you're interested in (I decided to change this from the way the 
  English news flashes work due to the feeds containing much more text, so it 
  wasn't practical to send all news details in one message).  
  ---
  Ok 
  I've tested your bot and it seems to work really well. It would be great 
  to get this on other networks. I think we may 
  have someone from Jabber who could help on this list.
  In 
  Gaim the Persian text is correctly displayed right to left and English text is 
  left to right. It looks great!


Re: [backstage] RE: IM Persian news bot

2006-03-07 Thread Dan Brickley
* Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-07 15:49-]
>   
>   Following a conversation with Dan Brickley, who pointed me to Ian 
> Forrester's post on BBC Persian being filtered in Iran (see 
> http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/?permalink=BBC-Persian-filtered-out-of-Iran-what-can-we-do.html),
>  I am now running a first version of a Persian (Farsi) news bot, along 
> similar lines as the newsflash bots. As Dan suggested, this could be one 
> additional means of bypassing the Iranian firewall...  
>   
>   Sounds like a good idea ;) I'll let the Persian service know, as they 
> might be very interested in your news bot.
>   


Yes, this looks great. Nice work Mario!

Whether this approach actually gets adopted is probably beyond the scope
of this list. I'm interested in what the Persian service think of it...

I posted a screen grab at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danbri/109247073/in/photostream/



> 
> 
>   Currently the bot is only running on MSN, and although I managed to get 
> the right-to-left issue to work using the official MSN client (in my case 
> Windows Live Messenger beta), it seems that not all 3rd party clients support 
> the "X-MMS-IM-Format" field (where I set the R-to-L orientation), so for 
> example Trillian ignores it and displays the messages incorrectly L-to-R. I 
> haven't tried other clients yet.  
>   
>   Interesting issue, I'm trying it in Gaim which has great Unicode and 
> multiple language support. 

Good to see the I18N support in these tools getting exercised...

>   I don't speak/read Farsi or Arabic, so can't really tell if the content 
> is ok (although I compared it visually to what's on the BBC website to get 
> some idea). I use the nearly-full-text feed at 
> http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml (I believe Ian set that up?), and 
> have noticed some strange HTML tags in the feeds, all of which (rightly or 
> wrongly) also make it into the bot messages.. in addition, the menu-type 
> texts are all in English for now, and should really be translated.  
>   
>   Maybe if I speak to someone in the Persian service they might be able 
> to let you know if it looks and reads correctly. 
>   Can you let me know what tags your getting as I might be outputting too 
> much. 

I saw some  and  ,   and even  in one article,
amongst other fragments.


>   
>   The bot is on MSN as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Once you join, you'll get the 
> 10 most recent news headlines from http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml 
> every hour, to which you can respond with a number (1 to 10) to see more 
> details for the news headline you're interested in (I decided to change this 
> from the way the English news flashes work due to the feeds containing much 
> more text, so it wasn't practical to send all news details in one message).  
>   ---
>   Ok I've tested your bot and it seems to work really well. It would be 
> great to get this on other networks. I think we may have someone from Jabber 
> who could help on this list.

Yup, Jabber should at least have clean I18N. For Persian in particular I 
think Yahoo IM would be good; anecdotally, it seems more popular than 
MSN in Iran. I don't know of any hard stats though.

So this is definitely a cool piece of technology. I wonder now whether 
it risks getting generic IM blocked in Iran...

Dan


>   In Gaim the Persian text is correctly displayed right to left and 
> English text is left to right. It looks great!

:)
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