Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Ant Miller
Not definitional but: TV is a large international engineering, entertainment, and journalism complex with a contiguous attitude toward it's 'audience' and in most cases, it's 'customers/clients' (aka advertisers). It is a culture under threat, and reacting to that threat with several

RE: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew Bowden
Last I checked, so is (much of) the BBC. I'm sure somebody here is well-placed to correct me if this is no longer the case! As far as I know, all the BBC now has IE7 installed, however it was only a few months ago that they did the upgrade. Firefox is now available to all staff if they

RE: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew Bowden
Router upstairs in back bedroom. Freesat set top box downstairs in living room. Master phone socket at the bottom of the stairs. Homeplug's far easier in such a scenario - which is the scenario in my house. Freesat are a joint venture, 50% owned by the BBC and 50% owned by ITV plc, so it's not

[backstage] BBC RD Wiki page

2009-12-15 Thread Ant Miller
With the minute amount of time I can spare I've taken the plunge and put an updated entry on the BBC RD page on wikipedia- it's not much, and I haven't even fixed the logo- plu it redirects to BBC Research ( a non existent entity!). Rather than run the risk of being accused of rampant commercial

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:17, Andrew Bowden wrote: Last I checked, so is (much of) the BBC. I'm sure somebody here is well-placed to correct me if this is no longer the case! As far as I know, all the BBC now has IE7 installed, however it was only a few months ago that they did the upgrade.

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Simon Thompson
The RF noise generated by these technologies is quite bad, it's in a band where noise can propogate worldwide via the ionosphere. It can prevent receivers locking to, or demodulating a signal. http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP116.pdf Also, it's very easy to

RE: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-15 Thread Ian Forrester
2017 right after the Vista upgrade right? Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 15 Dec 2009, at 10:33, Simon Thompson wrote: Also, it's very easy to demodulate the Ethernet traffic radiated from your house wiring from one of these systems - it's not very secure! I think the Homeplug AV standard uses 128-bit AES traffic encryption, which should be enough to foil the

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/15 Simon Thompson simon.thomp...@rd.bbc.co.uk: Also, it's very easy to demodulate the Ethernet traffic radiated from your house wiring from one of these systems - it's not very secure! Mitigated by the use of 128bit AES encryption (in the ones I have anyway). Cheers, Al. - Sent via

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:40, Ian Forrester wrote: 2017 right after the Vista upgrade right? I heard a report† that 37.6% of sales of Windows Vista were in fact Siemens stockpiling supplies so that there would still be copies around near the end of the next decade. M. -- mo mcroberts

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Bowyer
2009/12/15 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net: On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:40, Ian Forrester wrote: 2017 right after the Vista upgrade right? I heard a report† that 37.6% of sales of Windows Vista were in fact Siemens stockpiling supplies so that there would still be copies around near the end of

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Simon Thompson
Wasn't encryption an option on Homeplug 1.0? I thought it came with either a default password or the option to switch it on. Stephen Jolly wrote: On 15 Dec 2009, at 10:33, Simon Thompson wrote: Also, it's very easy to demodulate the Ethernet traffic radiated from your house wiring from

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Simon Thompson
Oops, same team did look into internal systems, but the noise problem is similar. I'll see if I can find their report. Mo McRoberts wrote: On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:33, Simon Thompson wrote: The RF noise generated by these technologies is quite bad, it's in a band where noise can propogate

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Webster
Radio Society has more info http://www.rsgb.org/plt/ In particular they are chasing after the Comtrend models supplied by BT. Paul On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:24:53 +, you wrote: Oops, same team did look into internal systems, but the noise problem is similar. I'll see if I can find their

[backstage] embedding API for iplayer in webapps?

2009-12-15 Thread Dan Brickley
Hi folks A year or two ago, there was a nice proof of concept showing iplayer embedded within Facebook. And there was inconclusive discussion here a while back about APIs. What's the current state of art? Context: In the NoTube project, I am looking at possible lightweight standards for

Re: [backstage] embedding API for iplayer in webapps?

2009-12-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Dec-2009, at 13:37, Dan Brickley wrote: A year or two ago, there was a nice proof of concept showing iplayer embedded within Facebook. And there was inconclusive discussion here a while back about APIs. What's the current state of art? The stock EMP embedding code, last I looked, can

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:11, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: Radio Society has more info http://www.rsgb.org/plt/ In particular they are chasing after the Comtrend models supplied by BT. I thought the Comtrend powerline adapters aren't HomePlug ( http://www.homeplug.org/) standard

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Webster
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:17:47 +, you wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:11, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: Radio Society has more info http://www.rsgb.org/plt/ In particular they are chasing after the Comtrend models supplied by BT. I thought the Comtrend powerline adapters aren't

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Brian Butterworth wrote: Another way of looking at TV is that is the delivery of audio visual services using high capacity omnidirectional technology. I think you mean broadcast. Clearly, in 1980, you absolutely cannot do 'video on demand' for everyone. The playback technology diddn't

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Dominic Smith
From the International Telecommunications Union Radio Regulations: Television: A form of telecommunication for the transmission of transient images of fixed or moving objects. (where 'telecommunication' is defined in the annex to the Constitution of the International Telecommunication Union as:

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Rain
Wot that pastime you only end up doing if you really, really have nothing better to to do instead? (okay, 'Thick of it' is alright...) R --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Dominic Smith d...@domsmith.co.uk wrote: From: Dominic Smith d...@domsmith.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] What is TV? To:

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Frank Wales
Rain wrote: Wot that pastime you only end up doing if you really, really have nothing better to to do instead? Oh, I know, I know! Is it: debate the meaning of 'TV'? -- Frank Wales [fr...@limov.com] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit