Re: [backstage] Today's TV-Anytime tar is broken
Hi, Is there any news of this as there doesn't appear to be a file for today :-( Appart from this problem, the data is really great and I'm currently hacking Perl TV::Anytime to make use of the additional data that is hidden in these files. I'm make a patch available once it is fully working. Adam Quoting Mario Menti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi there, looks like today's TV-Anytime tar file (20060306.tar.gz at http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/[1]) is broken - could someone fix and replace it? Thanks, Mario. Links: -- [1] /horde/services/go.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbackstage.bbc.co.uk%2Ffeeds%2Ftvradio%2F - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Today's TV-Anytime tar is broken
At 11:26 07/03/2006 +, you wrote: Hi, Is there any news of this as there doesn't appear to be a file for today :-( Appart from this problem, the data is really great and I'm currently hacking Perl TV::Anytime to make use of the additional data that is hidden in these files. I'm make a patch available once it is fully working. There appears to be a problem with the FTP link used to get the data from the database machine to the web site itself. I've flagged the problem to our internet services people - hopefully the problem will be resolved soon. It seems to have corrupted yesterday's upload and completely failed on today's. Hywel I tried a manual push - that also failed. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Mashups
On 7 Mar 2006, at 12:30, Gordon Joly wrote: http://tubejp.co.uk/ Simplicity itself. And stuffed full of information. Brilliant! I like the reality of the tube lines. We are so used to Mr. Beck's view... It's very cool and pretty, although it almost certainly breaks the terms of use - the map tiles appear to be edited versions of the original Google Maps / Tele Atlas tiles, and no credit is given. I have the locations of Tube stations on my old mashup - http:// www.dynamite.co.uk/local/ - I keep meaning to add the actual routes in, but I've not had the time. Dom - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Mashups
Dom Ramsey wrote: I have the locations of Tube stations on my old mashup - http:// www.dynamite.co.uk/local/ - I keep meaning to add the actual routes in, but I've not had the time. I did this a while ago (I have a lot of metro map datasets for research I am doing for my PhD). Here's the London one: http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/ And Madrid: http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/madrid.php Jonathan Stott - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Mashups
Jonathan Stott wrote: Dom Ramsey wrote: I have the locations of Tube stations on my old mashup - http:// www.dynamite.co.uk/local/ - I keep meaning to add the actual routes in, but I've not had the time. I did this a while ago (I have a lot of metro map datasets for research I am doing for my PhD). Here's the London one: http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/ Very cool, but if I can be pedantic for one second, it looks to me as tho' you have the central line station at Shepherd's Bush in the wrong place. It's really on the north side of the green very close to the big roundabout. That way trains don't have make the hairpin bend that you're currently showing :) Dave... -- Site: http://dave.org.uk/ Blog: http://blog.dave.org.uk/ Code: http://dave.org.uk/code/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Google Mashups
I did this a while ago (I have a lot of metro map datasets for research I am doing for my PhD). Here's the London one: http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/ Very cool, but if I can be pedantic for one second, it looks to me as tho' you have the central line station at Shepherd's Bush in the wrong place. It's really on the north side of the green very close to the big roundabout. That way trains don't have make the hairpin bend that you're currently showing :) I think the station's actually roundabout the right place - maybe it's actually a smidge to the left, but not much and the line does go round some very sharp corners between Shepherds Bush and White City on the Central Line (until they changed things recently, you used to get a huge amount of loud schreeching as the tube went round the corners!) However all is not totally accurate in the Bush! The HC line station needs to be a bit further up - the platforms are visible on the images Google. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Mashups
Andrew Bowden wrote: I did this a while ago (I have a lot of metro map datasets for research I am doing for my PhD). Here's the London one: http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/ Very cool, but if I can be pedantic for one second, it looks to me as tho' you have the central line station at Shepherd's Bush in the wrong place. It's really on the north side of the green very close to the big roundabout. That way trains don't have make the hairpin bend that you're currently showing :) I think the station's actually roundabout the right place Well, it is now that Jonathan has moved it :) Dave... -- Site: http://dave.org.uk/ Blog: http://blog.dave.org.uk/ Code: http://dave.org.uk/code/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Google Mashups
Well, it is now that Jonathan has moved it :) You know, that might explain it :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Re: IM Persian news bot
I really have to get something better than my cheap VPS seems just minutes after posting this, the server has some DNS issues and can't see the outside world.Sorry about this, will update you when it's solved... On 3/7/06, Mario Menti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following a conversation with Dan Brickley, who pointed me to Ian Forrester's post on BBC Persian being filtered in Iran (see http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/?permalink=BBC-Persian-filtered-out-of-Iran-what-can-we-do.html), I am now running a first version of a Persian (Farsi) news bot, along similar lines as the newsflash bots. As Dan suggested, this could be one additional means of bypassing the Iranian firewall... Currently the bot is only running on MSN, and although I managed to get the right-to-left issue to work using the official MSN client (in my case Windows Live Messenger beta), it seems that not all 3rd party clients support the X-MMS-IM-Format field (where I set the R-to-L orientation), so for example Trillian ignores it and displays the messages incorrectly L-to-R. I haven't tried other clients yet. I don't speak/read Farsi or Arabic, so can't really tell if the content is ok (although I compared it visually to what's on the BBC website to get some idea). I use the nearly-full-text feed at http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml (I believe Ian set that up?), and have noticed some strange HTML tags in the feeds, all of which (rightly or wrongly) also make it into the bot messages.. in addition, the menu-type texts are all in English for now, and should really be translated. The bot is on MSN as [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Once you join, you'll get the 10 most recent news headlines from http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml every hour, to which you can respond with a number (1 to 10) to see more details for the news headline you're interested in (I decided to change this from the way the English news flashes work due to the feeds containing much more text, so it wasn't practical to send all news details in one message). No guarantees as to bot uptime etc, but as ever, feedback appreciated!Mario.
[backstage] Re: IM Persian news bot
Back now... touch wood! Some iptables screw-up, hoping it will stay up..Mario.On 3/7/06, Mario Menti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I really have to get something better than my cheap VPS seems just minutes after posting this, the server has some DNS issues and can't see the outside world. Sorry about this, will update you when it's solved...
[backstage] RE: IM Persian news bot
From: Mario Menti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 March 2006 14:40To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ian ForresterSubject: IM Persian news bot Following a conversation with Dan Brickley, who pointed me to Ian Forrester's post on BBC Persian being filtered in Iran (see http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/?permalink=BBC-Persian-filtered-out-of-Iran-what-can-we-do.html), I am now running a first version of a Persian (Farsi) news bot, along similar lines as the newsflash bots. As Dan suggested, this could be one additional means of bypassing the Iranian firewall... Sounds like a good idea;)I'll let the Persian service know, as they might be very interested in your news bot. Currently the bot is only running on MSN, and although I managed to get the right-to-left issue to work using the official MSN client (in my case Windows Live Messenger beta), it seems that not all 3rd party clients support the "X-MMS-IM-Format" field (where I set the R-to-L orientation), so for example Trillian ignores it and displays the messages incorrectly L-to-R. I haven't tried other clients yet. Interestingissue, I'm trying it in Gaim whichhas great Unicode and multiple language support.I don't speak/read Farsi or Arabic, so can't really tell if the content is ok (although I compared it visually to what's on the BBC website to get some idea). I use the nearly-full-text feed at http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml (I believe Ian set that up?), and have noticed some strange HTML tags in the feeds, all of which (rightly or wrongly) also make it into the bot messages.. in addition, the menu-type texts are all in English for now, and should really be translated. Maybeif I speak to someonein the Persian service they might be able to let you know if it looks and reads correctly. Can you let me know whattags your getting as I might be outputting too much.The bot is on MSN as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Once you join, you'll get the 10 most recent news headlines from http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml every hour, to which you can respond with a number (1 to 10) to see more details for the news headline you're interested in (I decided to change this from the way the English news flashes work due to the feeds containing much more text, so it wasn't practical to send all news details in one message). --- Ok I've tested your bot and it seems to work really well.It would be great to get this on othernetworks. I think we may have someone from Jabber who could help on this list. In Gaim the Persian text is correctly displayed right to left and English text is left to right. It looks great!
Re: [backstage] RE: IM Persian news bot
* Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-07 15:49-] Following a conversation with Dan Brickley, who pointed me to Ian Forrester's post on BBC Persian being filtered in Iran (see http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/culture/?permalink=BBC-Persian-filtered-out-of-Iran-what-can-we-do.html), I am now running a first version of a Persian (Farsi) news bot, along similar lines as the newsflash bots. As Dan suggested, this could be one additional means of bypassing the Iranian firewall... Sounds like a good idea ;) I'll let the Persian service know, as they might be very interested in your news bot. Yes, this looks great. Nice work Mario! Whether this approach actually gets adopted is probably beyond the scope of this list. I'm interested in what the Persian service think of it... I posted a screen grab at http://www.flickr.com/photos/danbri/109247073/in/photostream/ Currently the bot is only running on MSN, and although I managed to get the right-to-left issue to work using the official MSN client (in my case Windows Live Messenger beta), it seems that not all 3rd party clients support the X-MMS-IM-Format field (where I set the R-to-L orientation), so for example Trillian ignores it and displays the messages incorrectly L-to-R. I haven't tried other clients yet. Interesting issue, I'm trying it in Gaim which has great Unicode and multiple language support. Good to see the I18N support in these tools getting exercised... I don't speak/read Farsi or Arabic, so can't really tell if the content is ok (although I compared it visually to what's on the BBC website to get some idea). I use the nearly-full-text feed at http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml (I believe Ian set that up?), and have noticed some strange HTML tags in the feeds, all of which (rightly or wrongly) also make it into the bot messages.. in addition, the menu-type texts are all in English for now, and should really be translated. Maybe if I speak to someone in the Persian service they might be able to let you know if it looks and reads correctly. Can you let me know what tags your getting as I might be outputting too much. I saw some p and img/ , strong /p and even p/ in one article, amongst other fragments. The bot is on MSN as [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Once you join, you'll get the 10 most recent news headlines from http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/persian/index.xml every hour, to which you can respond with a number (1 to 10) to see more details for the news headline you're interested in (I decided to change this from the way the English news flashes work due to the feeds containing much more text, so it wasn't practical to send all news details in one message). --- Ok I've tested your bot and it seems to work really well. It would be great to get this on other networks. I think we may have someone from Jabber who could help on this list. Yup, Jabber should at least have clean I18N. For Persian in particular I think Yahoo IM would be good; anecdotally, it seems more popular than MSN in Iran. I don't know of any hard stats though. So this is definitely a cool piece of technology. I wonder now whether it risks getting generic IM blocked in Iran... Dan In Gaim the Persian text is correctly displayed right to left and English text is left to right. It looks great! :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
