Re: [backstage] Joost anyone?

2007-01-26 Thread Phil Whelan
Hi Robert, I'm on the joost waiting list, but really itching to try it out. If you've still got a spare invite, I'd be most gracious. Cheers, Phil On 18/01/07, Robert Kerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Email me if you'd like an invite - not sure how many I can give out though. :o) Rob evilgre

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Richard P Edwards
Hi Michael, The label's prefix is always in the ISRC code this may explain further... http://www.riaa.com/issues/audio/isrc_faq.asp My understanding is that the code is attached to the original and unique recording. so many recordings of the same song can have different codes... bu

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Smethurst
almost staying on topic and because this discussion hasn't kicked off yet i thought i'd throw this in: after scooting around http://www.virginradio.co.uk/ i was wondering clearly u have lots of tracklistings clearly we have a fair few but if u flip between radio 3, radio 1, 1xtra, Later etc the

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Brian Butterworth
> Now - an aside - Musicbrainz was set up because of Gracenote. >If I understand correctly, the dataset that Gracenote CDDB is based on >was orginally an 'open' database with information contributed by the >public. It was sold, and changed its licensing structures away from the >original open

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Smethurst
On the subject of ISRC codes I've spoken to some of the production people about this Apparently they're supposed to uniquely identify the audio object So if a track appears on a single and also appears on an album with EXACTLY the same recording it should have the same isrc code BUT apparently labe

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Smethurst
James Firstly a vague attempt to put your mind at rest about "why the BBC is now looking at putting third-party music information services out of business". If you mean we plan to make a service that competes with allmusic etc we don't [honest]. We just want to be able to better represent music

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Nic James Ferrier
"Michael Smethurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > All tru > Brainz has "advanced relationships" to break "Paul Simon and Art > Garfunkel" into "paul Simon" and "Art Garfunkel" (bad example I know) > And for that matter "Peter Andre and Jordan" into "Peter Andre" and > "Jordan" > [http://tinyurl.co

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Smethurst
All tru Brainz has "advanced relationships" to break "Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel" into "paul Simon" and "Art Garfunkel" (bad example I know) And for that matter "Peter Andre and Jordan" into "Peter Andre" and "Jordan" [http://tinyurl.com/2yxx76] David Thanks for the pointer to http://pingthesem

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Richard Lockwood
The pubs are obviously open. Cheers, Rich. On 1/26/07, Brian Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear --- Richard P Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> May I ask you who do you think music is made for? Who makes the music? If it comes from inspiration then it belongs to us all! Thereby hides the sins

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Brian Nixon
Dear --- Richard P Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> May I ask you who do you think music is made for? Who makes the music? If it comes from inspiration then it belongs to us all! Thereby hides the sins of man, he takes that which he does not make and uses to feather his own nest! Have a nice day!

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Kim Plowright
Now - an aside - Musicbrainz was set up because of Gracenote. If I understand correctly, the dataset that Gracenote CDDB is based on was orginally an 'open' database with information contributed by the public. It was sold, and changed its licensing structures away from the original open source mode

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Kim Plowright
I've been lurking on the Musicbrainz dev list for years; iirc, there is some hidden category to make duets/collaborations like that resolve to two artists. It may well be worth finding their list archives to check we're not about to rediscuss all of the conversations! (Is Rob Mayhem and Chaos on

Re: [backstage] DRM

2007-01-26 Thread Nic James Ferrier
"Andrew Bowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "James Cridland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Though looking at the big screen on the wall, the vast majority of users >> > seem content with Windows Media (over 80% of our online listeners right >> > now). > >> Do you think those of us who aren't

RE: [backstage] DRM

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Bowden
> "James Cridland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Though looking at the big screen on the wall, the vast majority of users > > seem content with Windows Media (over 80% of our online listeners right > > now). > Do you think those of us who aren't content should complain more? > I complain sometim

RE: [backstage] DRM

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Bowden
> One might argue that the BBC should make their radio stations available in > as many different ways as possible, to satisfy as many users as possible: > after all, we pay for it. The flip side is that every format you add, has some extra setup costs of various magnitudes, and when belts have t