Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter

2007-02-22 Thread James Cridland

On 2/20/07, Tristan Ferne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Another hack/prototype: Partly inspired by Martin's
(http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/prototypes/archives/2007/02/tv_twitter.html)
and Mario's
(http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/prototypes/archives/2007/01/bbc_news_just_s.
html) experiments we've put Radio 1 up on Twitter - including updates on
what track is now playing and what people are texting in about.

http://twitter.com/bbcradio1



What amused me is that I mentioned this at the Backstage bash (I can do
now-playing on Virgin really easily with this!) - and everyone rolled their
eyes and thought I was desperately sad.


I now know that everyone was thinking shit, give me three months and we
might be able to code something up for Radio 1.

Gauntlet? Thrown.

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Re: [backstage] World Service Hourly Bulliten podcast

2007-02-22 Thread Matthew Lamont
Well the Now Show and From our own correspondent have been down  
since at least Saturday though the World Today Select bulletin has  
come back up.  Thank goodness for Audio Hijack Pro 


Cheers,
Matt

Thankyou to those who donated to my rowing challenge.  We manged to  
raise over £3000 ($6000) for Teesside Hospice.


England expects that every man will do his duty - Admiral Horatio  
Lord Nelson, 21st October 1805


 


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On 22 Feb 2007, at 05:05, Carlos Roman wrote:



There was a problem with uploading the podcasts (general BBC ones)
yesterday but it should be resolved now. Also, just noticed that the
newest one for World Service is up but the feed hasn't validated
properly. This should be sorted out pretty soon.

-C.


Guys,

Dunno if you're the right group but it doesn't look like the
podcast has been updated since 10am yesterday.

Cheers,

Phil.


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[backstage] BBC TV for expats?

2007-02-22 Thread Matthew Lamont

Now then all,

When the BBC is thinking about making content available on the web,  
is it considering foreign markets?


Here in the US we have BBC America which is frankly rubbish and  
contains mainly shows selling antiques and Benny Hill re-runs.  What  
many of us expats crave for are good documentaries from BBC 2/4.  I  
realise that there are rights issues with a lot of stuff which is why  
we can't listen to live sports on the BBC radio player, but can this  
be got round if there is an international BBC licence fee.  With a  
million ex-pats alone in the NY/NJ/CT tri-state area in the north- 
east US, then I think it would be something worth pursuing.  Myself  
and friends that I talk to would love to stump up some cash if it  
meant we got access to these programs.  For now though, long live UK  
Nova and other services ...


Cheers,
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[backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread Mr I Forrester

Hi All,

The video form the 1st Backstage podcast is now up - 
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage_p_1.html


and you might want to check out the comments from Mike TechCrunch 
Arrington on the BBC - 
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html


Cheers,

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RE: [backstage] World Service Hourly Bulliten podcast

2007-02-22 Thread Carlos Roman

Thanks for the info, we're looking into this.

-C.


 Well the Now Show and From our own correspondent have 
 been down since at least Saturday though the World Today 
 Select bulletin has come back up.  Thank goodness for Audio 
 Hijack Pro 
 
 Cheers,
 Matt


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Re: [backstage] BBC and YouTube deal for real??

2007-02-22 Thread Graeme Mulvaney

That's a scary prospect, besides isn't that what sumo.tv and E4 are for ?

On 2/22/07, Jim Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I think it's more likely to be YouTube content on the beeb rather than
the other way around, isn't it?



 On 21 Feb 2007, at 21:37, vijay chopra wrote:

OK, many of you will have seen this by now:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1636247
http://www.techsmessage.com/2007/02/21/bbc-and-youtube-in-deal-talks/

But considering all the IP talk that's been going on on the list, is this
for real, and if so does anyone know what exactly the Beeb might be
planning?? Free Beeb content on YouTube would be good, what purpose would it
serve?






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[backstage] Sky MPEG4 Freeview subscription

2007-02-22 Thread Brian Butterworth
Hi,
 
You are all probably quite aware that Sky have said they wish to remove
their free-to-air channels from Freeview and replace them with a
subscription service that is based on MPEG4.
 
Despite the fact they haven't even gotten around to asking Ofcom for
permission, a petition to 'keep Freeview free' has been started, in the
style of the road charging one.
 
HYPERLINK
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/SkyPayOnFreeview/http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Sky
PayOnFreeview/
 
 
Brian Butterworth
HYPERLINK http://www.ukfree.tv/www.ukfree.tv

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Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread blogHUD

Re: Arrington

OMFG!!



On 2/22/07, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All,

The video form the 1st Backstage podcast is now up -
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage_p_1.html

and you might want to check out the comments from Mike TechCrunch
Arrington on the BBC -
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html

Cheers,

Ian
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Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread blogHUD

btw:  I just added Ian's blip.tv video feed to our podcast.com video folder

http://podcast.com/show/6951


I will attempt to clean up the audio from last night's geekdinner event and
get that online soon too.

(Also to rip out the audio of Mike saying his piece and post to my blog)

;)

On 2/22/07, blogHUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Re: Arrington

OMFG!!



On 2/22/07, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 The video form the 1st Backstage podcast is now up -
 http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage_p_1.html

 and you might want to check out the comments from Mike TechCrunch
 Arrington on the BBC -
 http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html

 Cheers,

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Re: [backstage] Sky MPEG4 Freeview subscription

2007-02-22 Thread Tim Cowlishaw

Hmm.. It's great that people are actively resisting this, but to reiterate a
point made earlier on the Open Rights Group list concerning the iPlayer
petition on pm.gov.uk, is this really the best forum for protest? IMO the
idea that the PM (or any branch of government) should step in to legislate
what should and should not be shown on television is a slightly scary
prospect

Will forward the post from the ORG list for reference, for all those not
subscribed...

Cheers,

Tim

On 2/22/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 Hi,

You are all probably quite aware that Sky have said they wish to remove
their free-to-air channels from Freeview and replace them with a
subscription service that is based on MPEG4.

Despite the fact they haven't even gotten around to asking Ofcom for
permission, a petition to 'keep Freeview free' has been started, in the
style of the road charging one.

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/SkyPayOnFreeview/


Brian Butterworth
www.ukfree.tv

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[backstage] Fwd: [ORG-discuss] BBC iPlayer Petition

2007-02-22 Thread Tim Cowlishaw

Forwarding for reference: ORG list responses to the BBC iPlayer petition on
pm.gov.uk

Cheers,

Tim

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Date: Feb 22, 2007 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ORG-discuss] BBC iPlayer Petition
To: Open Rights Group open discussion list 
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On 22/02/07, David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mmmm ... I think the fact that the Trust put question 5 in their
request for comments, phrased as it was - a direct invitation to
supply them with cluebats with which to beat the people responsible
for a Windows-only proposal over the head with - indicates that
they're far from clueless on this matter themselves.



(forgot to note) - remembering that the Trust isn't allowed that sort
of direct hands-on influence any more than the PM's office is,
although their raised eyebrows are taken pretty seriously inside the
BBC as I understand it. That they phrased question 5 that way says
precisely what they think of the idea IMO.


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RE: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread Christopher Woods
If that's you in the background going WHAT?!, I wholeheartedly agree with
your sentiments.

The whole point of the BBC, at least to me, is that as it's insulated to an
extent from wider market forces, that is what gives it the freedom to
innovate to a greater extent and spend more on RD, to bring those
innovations to market and help develop the standards more than many other
broadcasters. The public service remit is unique in that it's looking out
for the consumer, not just the broadcaster, and if he doesn't see that (or
he's been put off by the meagre output of BBC America, which is a separate
branch of the Beeb anyway, right?) then he's a bit of an idiot. And here's
me thinking he actually had a bit of nouse when it comes to future tech...

Arrington should stick to reporting on indie Web 2.0 startups and leave
criticism or appraisal of the BBC and its output to people who get a use
from it - us crazy embracers know a good thing when we see it (and I for one
gladly pay that license fee!)

I absolutely _LOVE_ that pregnant pause after your man explains about the
Public Value Test. Arrington didn't see that one coming. :D


 -Original Message-
 From: Mr I Forrester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 February 2007 15:44
 To: BBC Backstage
 Subject: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington
 
 Hi All,
 
 The video form the 1st Backstage podcast is now up - 
 http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage
 _p_1.html
 
 and you might want to check out the comments from Mike 
 TechCrunch Arrington on the BBC - 
 http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html
 
 Cheers,
 
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RE: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread Daniel Morris
Oh no!!!
 
By the time the mic was on and everyone was looking at me I had no idea
what I was saying!

Arrrgghhh...

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Subject: Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington


btw:  I just added Ian's blip.tv video feed to our podcast.com
video folder

http://podcast.com/show/6951


I will attempt to clean up the audio from last night's
geekdinner event and get that online soon too.

(Also to rip out the audio of Mike saying his piece and post to
my blog)

;)


On 2/22/07, blogHUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Re: Arrington

OMFG!! 





On 2/22/07, Mr I Forrester  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

Hi All,

The video form the 1st Backstage podcast is now
up -

http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage_p_1.html

and you might want to check out the comments
from Mike TechCrunch
Arrington on the BBC -

http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html

Cheers,

Ian
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Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter

2007-02-22 Thread James Cridland

On 2/22/07, Tristan Ferne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You shouldn't take any notice of people who think you're ideas are
desperately sad.



I'd never take any notice of anyone then, and where would be the fun in
that?

Or mention good ideas at a BBC backstage bash! Though, honestly, I wasn't

there.
...and more like 3 hours.



I've not started yet; and not too convinced I want to clutter up Twitter
with 'now-playing' stuff, the more I think about it... maybe *you're* the
one who's desperately sad! (grin)

j


Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts

Mr I Forrester wrote:


and you might want to check out the comments from Mike TechCrunch 
Arrington on the BBC - 
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html



Is there some more background to what he said? The BBC should be 
dissolved is a fairly strong statement, and I would have thought 
there'd be at least a few words either before or after as to why the BBC 
should be dissolved (and I'd rather not have to trudge through a a video 
to find it).

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Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts



blogHUD wrote:

I have posted the audio here:

http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ 
http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/


download! share! mock! taunt! ;)



Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - I've got my speakers 
turned up full blast, and while there is  enough sound to know that 
there is something there, it's still not audible.

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Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread blogHUD

i tried processing the audio through 'Levelator' (an audio normalisation
app) as the original panel audio was waaay quieter than Ian spitting out his
coffee ;)

I could quite hear the context before he said if, in the video, but he did
say 'this is bullsh*t' before saying it.


hopefully some kind of 'official' recording of this event will surface at
some stage. ;)


On 2/22/07, Scot McSweeney-Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:




blogHUD wrote:
 I have posted the audio here:


http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/
 
http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/


 download! share! mock! taunt! ;)


Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - I've got my speakers
turned up full blast, and while there is  enough sound to know that
there is something there, it's still not audible.
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Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread blogHUD

could*nt*  hear...  - sorry


On 2/22/07, blogHUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


i tried processing the audio through 'Levelator' (an audio normalisation
app) as the original panel audio was waaay quieter than Ian spitting out his
coffee ;)

I could quite hear the context before he said if, in the video, but he did
say 'this is bullsh*t' before saying it.


hopefully some kind of 'official' recording of this event will surface at
some stage. ;)


On 2/22/07, Scot McSweeney-Roberts  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 blogHUD wrote:
  I have posted the audio here:
 
  
http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/

  
 
http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/

 
  download! share! mock! taunt! ;)
 

 Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - I've got my speakers
 turned up full blast, and while there is  enough sound to know that
 there is something there, it's still not audible.
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Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts

Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote:
Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - I've got my 
speakers turned up full blast, and while there is  enough sound to 
know that there is something there, it's still not audible.


I take it back (partially). I swapped speakers and I got to at least 
hear a bit of it - but I still had problems with parts of it being 
unitelligable. I don't suppose there's a transcript anywhere?
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Re: [backstage] HD-DVD how DRM was defeated

2007-02-22 Thread James Cridland

Dave,

The fact you deliberately linked to the print version of Vanity Fair - thus
removing the chance of the publishers to earn money from your visit from
advertising, and/or effectively market the other content on their website,
is very telling.

I am deeply sorry that you don't want people to earn money from creative
work; and disappointed that you object to the idea that content-creators
need to control the distribution of their content. You've made your point
very clearly on this list a number of times. It's now turning from
charmingly naive discussion to something rather more irritating.

Perhaps, for the sake of all our sanity, I could leave it with this
real-world observation, that I hope even you agree with.

- Some content-creators will want to have 'Content Restriction And
Protection' on their content.
- Some content-creators will choose not to have 'crap' in their content.
- It's the content-creators choice to have crap in their content or not.

- Some consumers won't want content with crap in it.
- But some consumers won't care whether the content has crap in it or not.
- Ultimately, the consumer will choose whether they want crap or no crap.

- Content-creators may gain more benefit from controlling the use of their
crappy content.
- But content-creators may gain more benefit from leaving the crap out of
their content.
- The gamble for the content-creator is whether to put the crap in or leave
the crap out.

- Content-creators need to make the right individual choice.
- Consumers need to make the right individual choice.
- We both need to understand and respect each other's right to choose.



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RE: [backstage] Sky MPEG4 Freeview subscription

2007-02-22 Thread Brian Butterworth
 Tim Cowlishaw wrote:
  Hmm.. It's great that people are actively resisting this, but to 
  reiterate a point made earlier on the Open Rights Group list 
  concerning the iPlayer petition on pm.gov.uk http://pm.gov.uk, is 
  this really the best forum for protest? IMO the idea that 
 the PM (or 
  any branch of government) should step in to legislate what 
 should and 
  should not be shown on television is a slightly scary prospect
 You would think the market would decide. Seeing as Pay DTT 
 has been one failure after another, I have to wonder why Sky 
 would really want to get involved in Pay DTT, especially when 
 it would be incompatible with every DTT receiver out there 
 (so they'd have to subsidize boxes, something that worked so 
 well for ON Digital). If it's anything like the Sky By Wire 
 service on Homechoice, it'll be overpriced compared to the 
 DSAT offerings, so I doubt many Freeviewers will be tempted. 
 And if they did offer it for a reasonable price, they might 
 start cannibalizing their DSAT viewers.

Oh, and Sky were prevented once by the OFT from having any part in the
terrestrial encyption system, as they were part of the British Digital
Broadcasting group that became Ondigital.

 
 Anyway, aren't Ofcom the people to complain to about this and 
 not the online petitions site (which, as the recent road 
 charging and ID card petitions has shown, doesn't appear to 
 influence anything anyway)?

People did and Ofcom ignored them...

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/paytv/responses/

If anyone can get over 1.8 million people to sign in six months, then the
newspapers will have another feeding frenzy.  And I recon there are 13.5
million receivers out there, with 7 million homes being 'Freeview only', so
plenty of people to sign.

(Perhaps that's what Sky wants, millions of people saying how much they LOVE
Sky News, Sky Sports News and Sky Three... )

 
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Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter

2007-02-22 Thread Davy Mitchell

More Twitter nonsense :-) Been making it talk...
http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/personal/davy/arch_d7_2007_02_17.html#e143

Davy

http://twitter.com/daftspaniel

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RE: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington

2007-02-22 Thread Matthew Cashmore

Here's the short clip of that video with just Michael's comments, and the 
reaction - it's about 30 seconds in... Ian's coffee doesn't make an appearance 
but his rather loud WHAT!?... does :-)

http://blip.tv/file/154710/

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Sent: Thu 2/22/2007 8:09 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington
 
I remember looking around and there was a camera man but he kept moving around 
with his huge betacam. So I expect there was no official recording because of 
the shifting around. There was also no real powerful amplification of voices 
besides the little tinny speakers in the desks.
 
However there were at least 70 people in that large room, and trust me bullsh*t 
was used. I have the whole video if you want to watch it for context is here 
(still waiting for Blip to transcode it to Flash) - http://blip.tv/file/154369/
 
I'm surprised no one else has blogged it, Suw must have missed the discussion 
which took place at lunchtime - http://strange.corante.com/ 
 
Oh well, another reason to start a UK Valleywag? Hummm, shall I stick that in 
the ideas section?

Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk 

 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of blogHUD
Sent: 22 February 2007 19:01
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington


could*nt*  hear...  - sorry 



On 2/22/07, blogHUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

i tried processing the audio through 'Levelator' (an audio 
normalisation app) as the original panel audio was waaay quieter than Ian 
spitting out his coffee ;)

I could quite hear the context before he said if, in the video, 
but he did say 'this is bullsh*t' before saying it. 


hopefully some kind of 'official' recording of this event will 
surface at some stage. ;) 




On 2/22/07, Scot McSweeney-Roberts  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 



blogHUD wrote:
 I have posted the audio here:

 
http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/
 
http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/
 
 
http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/
 
http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/
  

 download! share! mock! taunt! ;)


Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - 
I've got my speakers
turned up full blast, and while there is  enough sound 
to know that 
there is something there, it's still not audible.
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