[backstage] Angus McBean

2007-03-09 Thread hayfielddigitalparish


Hi guys would appreciate help

How do I find details of a programme  on Angus McBean broadcast on  
BBC 2  at 7 or 7:30pm on the 5th March 07 possibly only shown in  
Wales ? the BBC site gives 0 finds!


Phil 

RE: [backstage] Angus McBean

2007-03-09 Thread zen16083
It was called:


Capturing Celebrity...

Mon 5 Mar, 7:00 pm - 7:30 pm  30mins
...The Photographs of Angus McBean. A look at the career of the Newport-born
artist currently being celebrated in a major exhibition at the National
Museum of Wales. [S]


http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:hEOaftmqsWcJ:www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listi
ngs/programme.shtml%3Fday%3Dyesterday%26service_id%3D41534%26filename%3D2007
0305/20070305_1900_41534_4697_30+Angus+McBean+bbchl=enct=clnkcd=3gl=uk
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:hEOaftmqsWcJ:www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/list
ings/programme.shtml%3Fday%3Dyesterday%26service_id%3D41534%26filename%3D200
70305/20070305_1900_41534_4697_30+Angus+McBean+bbchl=enct=clnkcd=3gl=uk



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Hi guys would appreciate help

How do I find details of a programme on Angus McBean broadcast on BBC 2 at 7
or 7:30pm on the 5th March 07 possibly only shown in Wales ? the BBC site
gives 0 finds!

Phil


Re: [backstage] Angus McBean

2007-03-09 Thread Richard Lockwood

TVPlanner.co.uk allows searching of TV Programmes from the last
fortnight over any channel (once you register (free)).  You can also
set up alerts by RSS or email.

Capturing Celebrity: The Photographs of Angus McBean

Angus McBean's photographs include some of the most famous and
beautiful portraits of the 20th century, from Ivor Novello and Audrey
Hepburn to the Beatles. The extraordinary career of this Newport-born
artist spanned 60 years and is celebrated in a major exhibition at the
National Museum of Wales in Cardiff.

/plug

:-)

Cheers,

Rich.

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http://www.google.com/search?q=Angus+McBean+site%3Abbc.co.uk

Google some better results than our internal engine, and holds some info in
its cache.

J

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Hi guys would appreciate help

How do I find details of a programme  on Angus McBean broadcast on BBC 2  at
7 or 7:30pm on the 5th March 07 possibly only shown in Wales ? the BBC site
gives 0 finds!

Phil

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Re: [backstage] Angus McBean

2007-03-09 Thread Richard Lockwood

Damn.  www.tvplanner.co.uk

Cheers,

R.

On 3/9/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

TVPlanner.co.uk allows searching of TV Programmes from the last
fortnight over any channel (once you register (free)).  You can also
set up alerts by RSS or email.

Capturing Celebrity: The Photographs of Angus McBean

Angus McBean's photographs include some of the most famous and
beautiful portraits of the 20th century, from Ivor Novello and Audrey
Hepburn to the Beatles. The extraordinary career of this Newport-born
artist spanned 60 years and is celebrated in a major exhibition at the
National Museum of Wales in Cardiff.

/plug

:-)

Cheers,

Rich.

On 3/9/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.google.com/search?q=Angus+McBean+site%3Abbc.co.uk

 Google some better results than our internal engine, and holds some info in
 its cache.

 J
 
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 How do I find details of a programme  on Angus McBean broadcast on BBC 2  at
 7 or 7:30pm on the 5th March 07 possibly only shown in Wales ? the BBC site
 gives 0 finds!

 Phil


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[backstage] Freebase

2007-03-09 Thread Jason Cartwright
No, nothing to do alkaloids. Looks like Google Base, but more open...
 
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-con
sciousness-and-kills-us-all/
 
http://www.freebase.com/
 
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RE: [backstage] Angus McBean

2007-03-09 Thread zen16083
Looks like it was on Wales BBC 2. Could try:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/2w/content/contact.shtml


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Google some better results than our internal engine, and holds some info in
its cache.

J

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7 or 7:30pm on the 5th March 07 possibly only shown in Wales ? the BBC site
gives 0 finds!

Phil


Re: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread vijay chopra

Thanks for that, an interesting in the introduction to the first document:

We also examined developments in webcasting.11 A trial of webcasting has
recently been
completed and we look forward to this service being established on a
permanent basis. We
feel that webcasting has an important part to play in an integrated,
interactive set of
information services providing access to the general public.

This appears to be being carried out on the BBC Parliament website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/bbc_parliament/default.stm , but I
notice the distinct lack of downloadable video content. Is there any
possibility of a Video version of the Today in Parliament podcast? The
rights negotiations should be minimal to zero, and unlike not being able to
watch the latest Dr Who (or whatever) on iPlayer, what goes on in
Westminster is actually life changing and important, so there is a real
public service aspect to being able to keep a copy on my hard drive and
point to it when a politician backtracks and tries to pretends\he didn't say
something.

Vijay.


On 08/03/07, Matthew Somerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


vijay chopra wrote:
 As can be seen at big set piece events such as PMQs Sky, ITV and BBC etc
 all seem to use the same camera, so it seems as if that the Beeb
 licences the footage. Anyone here know who from,  I suspect it is crown
 copyright like our statutes  and Hansard.

No, the recordings (and Hansard) are Parliamentary Copyright. As I
understand it (hard to gather information, some of this is based upon the
Broadcasting Select Committees First Report from June 2000 [1]), all the
major broadcasting companies own a company called the Parliamentary
Broadcasting Unit Ltd, which funds the cameras, control rooms, and
staffing
costs, and employs CCT Productions Limited to operate the cameras. So they

all get the same footage.

The copyright rests with Parliament, presumably the Parliamentary
Recording
Unit, from whom you can purchase archive footage. As long as you stick to
the rules about what you can do with the material even then:

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmselect/cmbroad/786/786.pdf

[1]

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmbroad/642/64202.htm

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RE: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread Andrew Bowden
I suspect they were refering to http://www.parliamentlive.tv/ rather
than BBC Parliament - although it's still streamed, and in Windows Media
Player format.
 
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Help/




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Sent: 09 March 2007 11:46
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC parliment


Thanks for that, an interesting in the introduction to the first
document:

We also examined developments in webcasting.11 A trial of
webcasting has recently been
completed and we look forward to this service being established
on a permanent basis. We
feel that webcasting has an important part to play in an
integrated, interactive set of 
information services providing access to the general public.

This appears to be being carried out on the BBC Parliament
website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/bbc_parliament/default.stm , but I
notice the distinct lack of downloadable video content. Is there any
possibility of a Video version of the Today in Parliament podcast? The
rights negotiations should be minimal to zero, and unlike not being able
to watch the latest Dr Who (or whatever) on iPlayer, what goes on in
Westminster is actually life changing and important, so there is a real
public service aspect to being able to keep a copy on my hard drive and
point to it when a politician backtracks and tries to pretends\he didn't
say something. 

Vijay.



On 08/03/07, Matthew Somerville  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

vijay chopra wrote:
 As can be seen at big set piece events such as PMQs
Sky, ITV and BBC etc
 all seem to use the same camera, so it seems as if
that the Beeb
 licences the footage. Anyone here know who from,  I
suspect it is crown 
 copyright like our statutes  and Hansard.

No, the recordings (and Hansard) are Parliamentary
Copyright. As I
understand it (hard to gather information, some of this
is based upon the
Broadcasting Select Committees First Report from June
2000 [1]), all the 
major broadcasting companies own a company called the
Parliamentary
Broadcasting Unit Ltd, which funds the cameras, control
rooms, and staffing
costs, and employs CCT Productions Limited to operate
the cameras. So they 
all get the same footage.

The copyright rests with Parliament, presumably the
Parliamentary Recording
Unit, from whom you can purchase archive footage. As
long as you stick to
the rules about what you can do with the material even
then: 

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmselect/cmbroad/786/7
86.pdf 

[1]

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmbroad/642/6
4202.htm

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RE: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread Jason Cartwright
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet...
 
http://www.parliamentlive.tv
 
J



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Sent: 09 March 2007 11:46
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC parliment


Thanks for that, an interesting in the introduction to the first
document:

We also examined developments in webcasting.11 A trial of webcasting
has recently been
completed and we look forward to this service being established on a
permanent basis. We
feel that webcasting has an important part to play in an integrated,
interactive set of 
information services providing access to the general public.

This appears to be being carried out on the BBC Parliament website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/bbc_parliament/default.stm , but I
notice the distinct lack of downloadable video content. Is there any
possibility of a Video version of the Today in Parliament podcast? The
rights negotiations should be minimal to zero, and unlike not being able
to watch the latest Dr Who (or whatever) on iPlayer, what goes on in
Westminster is actually life changing and important, so there is a real
public service aspect to being able to keep a copy on my hard drive and
point to it when a politician backtracks and tries to pretends\he didn't
say something. 

Vijay.



On 08/03/07, Matthew Somerville  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

vijay chopra wrote:
 As can be seen at big set piece events such as PMQs Sky, ITV
and BBC etc
 all seem to use the same camera, so it seems as if that the
Beeb
 licences the footage. Anyone here know who from,  I suspect it
is crown 
 copyright like our statutes  and Hansard.

No, the recordings (and Hansard) are Parliamentary Copyright. As
I
understand it (hard to gather information, some of this is based
upon the
Broadcasting Select Committees First Report from June 2000 [1]),
all the 
major broadcasting companies own a company called the
Parliamentary
Broadcasting Unit Ltd, which funds the cameras, control rooms,
and staffing
costs, and employs CCT Productions Limited to operate the
cameras. So they 
all get the same footage.

The copyright rests with Parliament, presumably the
Parliamentary Recording
Unit, from whom you can purchase archive footage. As long as you
stick to
the rules about what you can do with the material even then: 

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmselect/cmbroad/786/7
86.pdf 

[1]

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmbroad/642/6
4202.htm

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Re: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread Matthew Somerville

vijay chopra wrote:
notice the distinct lack of downloadable video content. Is there any 
possibility of a Video version of the Today in Parliament podcast?


As others have pointed out, parliamentlive.tv might be what you're looking 
for (in conjunction with some streaming downloader to capture the streamed 
content).


 The rights negotiations should be minimal to zero,

Sadly I doubt that, given 
http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_publications_and_archives/commons_foi/access.cfm 
: The rates at which the Parliamentary Recording Unit can provide video and 
audio recordings of parliamentary proceedings is dependent upon the length 
of recording required, how the footage is to be used and the nature of the 
organisation requiring the footage. Current rates are available on request.

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Re: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread vijay chopra

Thanks for the parliamentlive.tv link everyone,
it seems my requests would probably be better off being put to the admin
there, and perhaps a petition on http://petitions.pm.gov.uk, would be a
better route to take; any with over a hundred signatories seem to get some
form of response.

Vijay

On 09/03/07, Matthew Somerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


vijay chopra wrote:
 notice the distinct lack of downloadable video content. Is there any
 possibility of a Video version of the Today in Parliament podcast?

As others have pointed out, parliamentlive.tv might be what you're looking
for (in conjunction with some streaming downloader to capture the streamed
content).

 The rights negotiations should be minimal to zero,

Sadly I doubt that, given

http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_publications_and_archives/commons_foi/access.cfm
: The rates at which the Parliamentary Recording Unit can provide video
and
audio recordings of parliamentary proceedings is dependent upon the length
of recording required, how the footage is to be used and the nature of the
organisation requiring the footage. Current rates are available on
request.
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Re: [backstage] Freebase

2007-03-09 Thread Richard Lockwood

Ah - Tim O'Reilly manages to say nothing at all in a (tag)cloud of
buzzwords...  Very Web 2.0.

:-)

R.

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No, nothing to do alkaloids. Looks like Google Base, but more open...

http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/this-is-cool-unless-it-achieves-consciousness-and-kills-us-all/

http://www.freebase.com/

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Re: [backstage] Angus McBean

2007-03-09 Thread hayfielddigitalparish


Thanks for the links

Phil
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Re: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread Tom Loosemore

There are some very very interesting opportunities with Parliamentary
video coverage.

The rights situation is being explored (no need for a petition, TBH -
I think all parties are pretty willing to experiment in this area), as
are the metadata/API opportunities.

Having an existing API to a structured version of the parliamentary
transcript really, really opens up all sorts of exciting opportunities

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/api

(the marvel that is Matthew Somerville in action, once again)


Thanks for the parliamentlive.tv link everyone,
it seems my requests would probably be better off being put to the admin
there, and perhaps a petition on http://petitions.pm.gov.uk, would be a
better route to take; any with over a hundred signatories seem to get some
form of response.

Vijay


On 09/03/07, Matthew Somerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 vijay chopra wrote:
  notice the distinct lack of downloadable video content. Is there any
  possibility of a Video version of the Today in Parliament podcast?

 As others have pointed out, parliamentlive.tv might be what you're looking
 for (in conjunction with some streaming downloader to capture the streamed
 content).

  The rights negotiations should be minimal to zero,

 Sadly I doubt that, given

http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_publications_and_archives/commons_foi/access.cfm
 : The rates at which the Parliamentary Recording Unit can provide video
and
 audio recordings of parliamentary proceedings is dependent upon the length
 of recording required, how the footage is to be used and the nature of the
 organisation requiring the footage. Current rates are available on
request.
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[backstage] Web Focus Leads Newspapers to Hire Programmers for Editorial Staff

2007-03-09 Thread Ian Forrester
http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2007/03/digging_deeperthe_geek_in_the_1.html

This was sent to me from Robin (blogs.bbc.co.uk)
Quite a interesting read... Developers as editorial people.

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[backstage] Cory Doctorow on BBC rights holders

2007-03-09 Thread Dave Crossland

Hi,

Doctorow mentions the BBC DRM discussions, from the 14th minute of
http://www.archive.org/download/OpenViewsCoryDoctorow/t1172602800.ogg

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Re: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts

Matthew Somerville wrote:



The copyright rests with Parliament, presumably the Parliamentary 
Recording Unit, from whom you can purchase archive footage. As long as 
you stick to the rules about what you can do with the material even 
then: 
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmselect/cmbroad/786/786.pdf 



[1] 
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmbroad/642/64202.htm 






I found the following interesting:

/no extracts of Parliamentary proceedings may be used in any light 
entertainment

programme or in a programme of political satire;
/
I guess that almost rules out there ever being a Daily Show UK.


Scot


Re: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread vijay chopra

On 09/03/07, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



(no need for a petition, TBH -
I think all parties are pretty willing to experiment in this area),



I was beaten to it anyway: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/nocrowncopyright/, :-D

Thanks for the link though, I had no idea that TWFY had an API, the guys who
run the site do a great job anyway, so providing an API for us is an added
bonus.

The really useful info from them though, is that it's possible to get a
Parliamentary Licence over the web; link that up with some of the data from
parliamentlive.tv, and the Hansard website and you've got a decent public
archive of what was said, when and what's going to be said. The next step
would be to get permission to re-broadcast the stream. Anyone know who the
correct people to contact would be? the Parlimentry licence page (
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/click-use/parliamentary-licence-information/index.htm)
gives no information, apart from telling me it dosen't cover broadcasts.

Vijay.


Re: [backstage] Angus McBean

2007-03-09 Thread Jem Stone

On 3/9/07, hayfielddigitalparish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks for the links



You might also want to try the Programme Catologue
http://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/search/angus+mcbean

This particular programme is not in there yet but there is a few weeks lag.
There are some other programmes including an Arena from 1985.
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Re: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread Richard Lockwood


I found the following interesting:

no extracts of Parliamentary proceedings may be used in any light
entertainment
programme or in a programme of political satire;

I guess that almost rules out there ever being a Daily Show UK.


I don't recall The Daily Show relying on transcripts of Congress (or
whatever they call it in those forn parts).

Let's face it - The Daily Show (which is a fantastic show) draws
heavily on the history of satirical political TV programming - I see
Not The Nine O'Clock News in there, I see David Frost in there, I see
Peter Cook in there...

Cheers,

Rich.
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Re: [backstage] BBC parliment

2007-03-09 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts

Richard Lockwood wrote:




I don't recall The Daily Show relying on transcripts of Congress (or
whatever they call it in those forn parts).



The Daily Show uses video footage of Congress all the time.  An 
equivalent usage of parliamentary video footage is specifically banned 
by that no extracts of Parliamentary proceedings may be used in any 
light entertainment programme or in a programme of political satire 
rule (as stated in The Rules of Coverage linked to previously). The 
Daily Show makes enough use of congressional footage that it wouldn't be 
quite the same show if it wasn't allowed.



If anything, a Daily Show UK would be even more reliant on parliamentary 
footage, thanks to greater importance of Parliament compared to 
Congress. You couldn't do a Daily Show UK without at least some Prime 
Ministers Question Time material, for example.




Let's face it - The Daily Show (which is a fantastic show) draws
heavily on the history of satirical political TV programming - I see
Not The Nine O'Clock News in there, I see David Frost in there, I see
Peter Cook in there...



None of which ever used video of MPs and Lords at work. It would be 
interesting to know how much (if at all) the people behind The Daily 
Show (other than John Oliver) were influenced by Not The Nine O'Clock 
News et al. - were they even shown in the US?


cheers

Scot
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