Leo was voicing a more widely held perception amongst those with a higher
than average level of technical knowledge. He thinks that much BBC content
is not available region1 and so do lots of others. The fact that he was
mistaken about Q1 is not really the point.
A search on Dads Army on amazon
Leo's minor gripe was that a show that he would love to watch (Stephen Fry's QI
- based on him viewing clips on youtube) wasn't available for him to buy on
region1 dvd, what he didn't mention (probably didn't know) was that it's not
available anywhere, its not released in the UK until middle of
On 26/06/07, Ian Betteridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 26 Jun 2007, at 20:48, Brian Butterworth wrote:
>
>
> I was joking, obviously, otherwise I wouldn't have stuck the "TYS"
> on the end. In fact, if you read the article it refers to the
> Windows based catchup service as the iPlayer only
On 26 Jun 2007, at 20:48, Brian Butterworth wrote:
I was joking, obviously, otherwise I wouldn't have stuck the "TYS"
on the end. In fact, if you read the article it refers to the
Windows based catchup service as the iPlayer only in the text and
all the services (excluding cable and the
On 26/06/07, Ian Betteridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 26 Jun 2007, at 20:24, Brian Butterworth wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6236612.stm
>
> "The charge concerns the use of Microsoft technology in the
> corporation's forthcoming iPlayer. "
>
> On the BBC News website. Usi
Andy, if I had been the fool in charge of it, let me assure you by now
I would be taking legal action against your repeated public
accusations of corruption and misuse of public funds by individuals
within the BBC.
martin
currybet.net
.
On 26/06/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 25/06/0
On 26 Jun 2007, at 20:24, Brian Butterworth wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6236612.stm
"The charge concerns the use of Microsoft technology in the
corporation's forthcoming iPlayer. "
On the BBC News website. Using the meaning I said! TYS
So... you're taking the writing o
On 26 Jun 2007, at 17:33, Andy wrote...
"A lot of junk that he's ranted about before at great length,
probably written in the typed equivalent of green ink"
I would actually love you name these people at the BBC who are
conspiring to defraud the public, because then they could sue you fo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6236612.stm
"The charge concerns the use of Microsoft technology in the corporation's
forthcoming iPlayer. "
On the BBC News website. Using the meaning I said! TYS
On 26/06/07, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am also against the use of W
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 18:15 +0100, Simon Cross wrote:
> 250 texts for £10 via a API, awesome. I'm paying 6p/msg at the mo. 4p
> is very good value. Now placing voice calls in an app
Alternatively, I think the BT Together "Option 3 Anytime Plan" gives you
200 texts for £7.95 -- assuming you ha
If someone else says conspiracy do they find themselves back in Kansas?
On 26/06/07, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here in the US, that is not the case. It is much harder to find such DVD
> players.
Because they contravene the DMCA act? IANAL, and certainly not across
american law
I'm paying less I think from www.bulksms.co.uk and they have a API too
On 26/06/07, Simon Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Very Cool.
250 texts for £10 via a API, awesome. I'm paying 6p/msg at the mo. 4p is
very good value. Now placing voice calls in an app
S
-Original Message-
F
Here in the US, that is not the case. It is much harder to find such DVD
players.
Because they contravene the DMCA act? IANAL, and certainly not across
american law, but I thought it expressly forbade the circumventing of
content locks?
Incidentally, I'm sure the only reason BBC content isn't w
On Jun 26, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Ben O'Neill wrote:
Do regions actually mean anything anymore? Most of my DVD players
can play any region, only a really old Sony one enforced the regions.
Ben O'Neill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
True for those living in the UK. You can go to any shop and pickup a
D
Very Cool.
250 texts for £10 via a API, awesome. I'm paying 6p/msg at the mo. 4p is very
good value. Now placing voice calls in an app
S
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Cartwright
Sent: 26 June 2007 18:01
To: backstage@lists.b
Ah, another person on the 21CSDK mailing list ;) Have you seen how much the
access credits are priced at, though? Wow!
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Cartwright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 26 June 2007 18:01
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: [backstage] BT 21C SDK
>
>
I am also against the use of WM DRM as a matter of principle, but I think we
all have to realise that the iPlayer trial is a closed, walled-garden trial,
and I fully expect the setup to change once a viable alternative is
developed and brought to a quality level where it's robust enough to handle
e
On 26 Jun 2007, at 15:19, Richard Hyett wrote:
In last weeks 'This Week in Tech' Leo Laporte made the point that
many of the BBC's titles on DVD were only available on 'Region 2'
format. Region 2 works fine on in Middle East, Iceland, Western
Europe, Central Europe, Egypt, French overseas
http://sdk.bt.com/
This has just gone live (it was beta, or something, before). Very
interesting.
J
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>> the intention isn't to stop you creating your own
>> original content it's to guarantee a revenue stream for the creative types
>> who originate stuff in the first place.
>
> The intention is to block the use of non-MS products, presumably
> somebody at the BBC holds shares in this company and
On 25/06/07, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't agree with piracy and it annoys the hell out of me when I see entire
episodes of BBC programming published on places like YouTube
Why does it annoy you? the BBC don't mind, if they did they would have
asked google to take them down
Basically what you are saying here is that these trail services (and yes I
know that) will all be rebranded iPlayer.
Given that the BBC keeps going from BBCi to bbc.co.uk and back again it is
a little difficult for people who wish to be consistant to aruge about a
service when things change.
Ba
On 26/06/07, Ian Betteridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 26/06/07, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Tell you what, you go and actually read the BBC and Ofcom documents
> about the service so you know what you are talking about and then repost,
> eh?
"So with this level of n
* Seven-day catch-up television over cable
This is the existing Telewest-desiged cable TV STREAMING repeats
service that already exists and is in use.
Actually it's a trial. I wouldn't expect people to widely know that,
because it was never labelled as a trial.
On 26/06/07, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, as the bottom three services HAVE already launched, I don't dig
your odds.
Actually, podcasts are still a trial. They haven't officially launched.
And I refer you to the quote I sent, where Highfield quite clearly referred
to
On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth
On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ma
On 26/06/07, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tell you what, you go and actually read the BBC and Ofcom documents about
the service so you know what you are talking about and then repost, eh?
"So with this level of nascent demand, we want to make BBC iPlayer as widely
available
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL P
In last weeks 'This Week in Tech' Leo Laporte made the point that many of
the BBC's titles on DVD were only available on 'Region 2' format. Region 2
works fine on in Middle East, Iceland, Western Europe, Central Europe,
Egypt, French overseas territories, Greenland, Japan, Lesotho, South Africa
a
On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth
On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're kidding, right?
>
>
> The service on Virgin isn't the ipl
On 6/26/07, Matthew Somerville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
David Woodhouse wrote:
> I don't think it's particularly off-topic at all. We're talking about a
> technical measure which gratuitously prevents the kind of development
> and collaboration which I thought this list was supposed to promote
David Woodhouse wrote:
> I don't think it's particularly off-topic at all. We're talking about a
> technical measure which gratuitously prevents the kind of development
> and collaboration which I thought this list was supposed to promote and
> encourage.
This is a "discussion list for anyone keen
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You're kidding, right?
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 11:36 +0100, Ian Betteridge wrote:
> On 26/06/07, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 10:00 +0100, Ian Betteridge wrote:
> > > I happen to think you're completely wrong, on pretty much every
> > > count,
> >
> > So you think that DRM actually _
On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You're kidding, right?
The service on Virgin isn't the iplayer, it's implemented via Virgin's
existing service that already provides BBC repeats that's been running for a
couple of years now. The same document approved the service but it
On 26/06/07, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 10:00 +0100, Ian Betteridge wrote:
> I happen to think you're completely wrong, on pretty much every count,
So you think that DRM actually _works_ for its (supposedly) intended
purpose, and prevents criminals from cop
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 10:00 +0100, Ian Betteridge wrote:
> I happen to think you're completely wrong, on pretty much every count,
So you think that DRM actually _works_ for its (supposedly) intended
purpose, and prevents criminals from copying content?
You think that it _won't_ end up just making
You're kidding, right?
The service on Virgin isn't the iplayer, it's implemented via
Virgin's existing service that already provides BBC repeats that's been
running for a couple of years now. The same document approved the
service but it is NOT the iPlayer.
The P
On 25/06/07, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This has nothing to do with freedom of choice or public service
remit... its just another woe-pen source bandwagon - instead of bickering
about the BBC using Microsofts' DRM, get together and come up with a
suitable open-alternative - tha
On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth
On 25/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 25/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > > The Act also states:
> > > > (
On 6/26/07, Ian Betteridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 26/06/07, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> The BBC should be, in my humble opinion, about creating content for the
> use of licence fee payers. As long as no payment is received, licence fee
> payers should be able to wa
On 26/06/07, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The BBC should be, in my humble opinion, about creating content for the
use of licence fee payers. As long as no payment is received, licence fee
payers should be able to watch, listen, store, forward, cut-and-paste and
mash up any cont
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
On 25/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 25/06/07, Andrew Bowden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> The Act also states:
On 25/06/07, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If no iPlayer is preferable to a DRM iPlayer then what's the problem, just
don't use the thing - nobody is forcing you to do anything.
That, however much it might be your point of view, is not "a choice".
I don't agree with piracy an
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