RE: [backstage] A bit late

2007-08-22 Thread Andrew Bowden
One possible alternative is some national newspaper publish articles about how parents are outraged 7 year olds can access inappropiate programmes which are broadcast after the watershed and are full of swearing and nudity. Like it or not, breach of the watershed always makes newspaper editors

Re: [backstage] A bit late

2007-08-22 Thread Brian Butterworth
What puzzles me is that (a) there is a whole heap of kids content on the iPlayer, (b) younger people = early adopters, (c) BBC has a relationship problem with young teenagers (no Def II for example - I guess I would call it BBC ZERO these days and stick it on Freeview 301/302 when there's no sport

Re: [backstage] Tags du jour

2007-08-22 Thread Brian Butterworth
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RE: [backstage] A bit late

2007-08-22 Thread Christopher Woods
New for Christmas 2007: Early Learning Centre presents Tomy's 'My First Interactive Media Player' £130's about average for those sought-after faddy kids' toys these days anyway, isn't it? You know, like Pogs or Tracey Islands or what have you I'm showing my age now _ From: [EMAIL

Re: [backstage] A bit late

2007-08-22 Thread Martin Belam
But I presume they'll make a knock-off copy on Blue Peter out of sticky-backed plastic and household waste? On 22/08/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New for Christmas 2007: Early Learning Centre presents Tomy's 'My First Interactive Media Player' £130's about average for

[backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer

2007-08-22 Thread Sean Dillon
Can't recall seeing this posted here, but then again it might have gotten lost in all the noise or I may have been too bone idle to actually remember what I've read. http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page BBC iPlayer on Linux project Wiki This is a project to bring the BBC

RE: [backstage] Russia forces World Service off FM radio

2007-08-22 Thread Gordon Joly
At 09:45 +0100 20/8/07, Andrew Bowden wrote: If you are interested in that kind of thing there was a fantastic 30 minute documentary about the number stations on Radio 4 called The Lincolnshire Poacher around about Xmas. I *cough* downloaded it from *cough* UKNova whilst I was in Austria

RE: [backstage] Russia forces World Service off FM radio

2007-08-22 Thread Gordon Joly
At 10:43 +0100 20/8/07, Darren Stephens wrote: content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, I too have certainly not downloaded this. And I am not downloading right now... In fact, I think somebody who resembles me hear it in 2006 on the

Re: [backstage] A bit late

2007-08-22 Thread vijay chopra
There's an error in your story, you say it's unavailable to under 18s, my screen cap clearly shows that the BBC think they can enforce contract law on under 16s. If they had used under 18s, the clause may have had a point, using under 16s, just makes the clause redundant because if a 14 yr old

Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer

2007-08-22 Thread Brian Butterworth
Doesn''t this break the TCs ? On 22/08/07, Sean Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't recall seeing this posted here, but then again it might have gotten lost in all the noise or I may have been too bone idle to actually remember what I've read.

Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer

2007-08-22 Thread vijay chopra
Exactly where in the T Cs does it say thou shalt not port iPlayer to another platform? (If someone point's out a clause in the EULA, I shall point and laugh). Personally I'd think that Auntie would be glad for the help, the Beeb is comitted to making iPlayer platform neutral, right? Vijay. On

Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer

2007-08-22 Thread Brian Butterworth
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayerbeta/tandc.shtml ... 12. You agree: to not attempt to, or assist any other person to *reverse engineer*, * de-compile*, *disassemble*, *alter*, duplicate, *modify*, rent, lease, loan, sub-licence, make copies, *create derivative works from*, distribute or provide

Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer

2007-08-22 Thread vijay chopra
Fair enough, though I still think that it's counter-productive, secondly, and upon closer reading, I notice that the T Cs and the EULA are one and the same; so my previous complaint about the EULA has been partly rendered null and void. For once I could and should have read the EULA before

Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer

2007-08-22 Thread David Greaves
Err. They are not 'reverse engineer, de-compile, disassemble, alter, modify, or create derivative works from AFAICS They are modifying Wine to correctly respond to the API calls that the iPlayer makes. Hmm... wonder what this does to the DRM David Brian Butterworth wrote:

Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer

2007-08-22 Thread vijay chopra
That's an interesting approach, but I guess it's quicker than decompiling iPlayer then rebuilding it from the ground up; I would guess that if WINE works correctly, the DRM stays, afterall that's what WINE is meant to do, implement all the features of windows, natively in Linux. The days of MSDRM

RE: [backstage] A bit late

2007-08-22 Thread Christopher Woods
Blasphemy! Where are the toilet roll inners?! I'll be damned if Health Safety gets in the way of my toilet roll inners! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Belam Sent: 22 August 2007 13:43 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: