RE: [backstage] Techcrunch BBC debate

[Christopher Woods]

> Thanks Ian, I can't make it so will appreciate the recording.

Ditto!

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[backstage] cool visualisation thing for text

[Alia Sheikh]

So I might be coming late to the party, but have y'all seen this?

http://wordle.net/

It's "a toy for generating 'word clouds' from text that you provide. The 
clouds give greater prominence to words that appear more frequently in 
the source text. You can tweak your clouds with different fonts, 
layouts, and color schemes. The images you create with Wordle are yours 
to use however you like."


It's all rather pretty and has me wondering if I should do unspeakable 
things with scheduling data.


Alia
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[backstage] Mashed : Hack Moyles - Audio segmentation with RTMP

[Alia Sheikh]

So last week there was some discussion on this list about writing an app 
that let you skip the boring bits of a podcast, and I mentioned that we 
had some code that would let you do just that.


We're making that code, some demo apps and some open source applications 
available that will let you use mp3 tags to enhance audio with images, 
chapters and descriptive text.  We are also providing enhanced versions 
of the Chris Moyles podcast for you to play around with.


See http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/event/?articleid=25 for more details:)

Night!
Alia
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[backstage] Mashed TV

[Steve Jolly]

Simon Thompson wrote:
We'll also be radiating a DVB-T (aka "Freeview") signal for you guys to 
hack around with.  We've got some USB DVB-T sticks, some software links 
and a talk on how to hack DVB-T and MHEG interactive stuff.


Just to clarify - this won't be a rebroadcast of one of the existing 
Freeview multiplexes: it's something we've put together just for Mashed. 
 Broadcasting all weekend on UHF channel 36 inside Alexandra Palace, 
the DVB-T network will contain two "Mashed TV" channels that will carry 
the lecture streams from Saturday morning, a bunch of videos from the 
O'Reilly Makezine Weekend Projects, some goofy idents created by 
gen-yoo-ine BBC research engineers and, in theory, anything that people 
give to us on the day (rights permitting, naturally).


Obviously you'll be too busy hacking to watch telly though, so to give 
you something to play with, there will be all the non-video goodies 
associated with digital TV, too: full schedule information available in 
EIT and TV-Anytime formats, a rebroadcast of BBC One complete with 
subtitles, audio description and so forth, and a rather special "red 
button" interactive service provided by our colleagues from the 
interactive TV teams: they want to get people writing their own 
Internet-deployed interactive TV apps, and there will be IP-enabled 
set-top-boxes at Mashed for you to test them out on.


http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/event/?articleid=24 gives some more 
technical details, and I'll be kicking off the "How to hack the BBC's TV 
services" session on Saturday morning with a brief talk about the 
potential of digital TV for cool hacks.


S
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Re: [backstage] More for Mashed

[Brian Butterworth]

2008/6/18 Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> This all sounds so cool, and it's making me rather envious that I'm not
> going! If I didn't have prior commitments then I would most certainly be
> there.


I too can't make it .. Matt made it sound SO exciting on the podcast today.


>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Simon Thompson <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Seeing as we've got Arduino, ARM, Microsoft Robotics and Goddard Space
>> Flight Centre all turning up to Mashed, we've got you some electronics kit
>> to play with. Expect to find capacitors, resistors, op-amps, 74 series
>> logic, voltage regulators, breadboards, batteries, solder, wire, tools,
>> soldering stations for some good honest sparky fun.
>>
>> It's a bit of a random selection so do feel free to bring your own stuff
>> too.
>>
>> See http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/event/?articleid=31 for more info :-D
>>
>>
>>
>> We'll also be radiating a DVB-T (aka "Freeview") signal for you guys to
>> hack around with.  We've got some USB DVB-T sticks, some software links and
>> a talk on how to hack DVB-T and MHEG interactive stuff.
>>
>> --
>>  --
>> *Simon Thompson MEng MIET*
>>  Research Engineer (Electronics)
>> PRINCE2TM Registered Practitioner
>>
>>  *BBC Future Media and Technology*
>>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>
>


-- 


Brian Butterworth

http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice,
since 2002

Re: [backstage] More for Mashed

[Matt Barber]

This all sounds so cool, and it's making me rather envious that I'm not
going! If I didn't have prior commitments then I would most certainly be
there.


On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Simon Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> Seeing as we've got Arduino, ARM, Microsoft Robotics and Goddard Space
> Flight Centre all turning up to Mashed, we've got you some electronics kit
> to play with. Expect to find capacitors, resistors, op-amps, 74 series
> logic, voltage regulators, breadboards, batteries, solder, wire, tools,
> soldering stations for some good honest sparky fun.
>
> It's a bit of a random selection so do feel free to bring your own stuff
> too.
>
> See http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/event/?articleid=31 for more info :-D
>
>
> We'll also be radiating a DVB-T (aka "Freeview") signal for you guys to
> hack around with.  We've got some USB DVB-T sticks, some software links and
> a talk on how to hack DVB-T and MHEG interactive stuff.
>
> --
>  --
> *Simon Thompson MEng MIET*
>  Research Engineer (Electronics)
> PRINCE2TM Registered Practitioner
>
>  *BBC Future Media and Technology*
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>

Re: [backstage] Techcrunch BBC debate

[Matt Barber]

Thanks Ian, I can't make it so will appreciate the recording.


I'll be there recording for those who can't make it.

Cheers,


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Re: [backstage] Techcrunch BBC debate

[Mr I Forrester]

Peter Bowyer wrote:

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned here already... or maybe I've
been asleep...

http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/06/12/the-techcrunch-bbc-debate/

  

Yep I assumed everyone just knew about it too.


I'll be there recording for those who can't make it.

Cheers,
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[backstage] More for Mashed

[Simon Thompson]

Seeing as we've got Arduino, ARM, Microsoft Robotics and Goddard Space 
Flight Centre all turning up to Mashed, we've got you some electronics 
kit to play with. Expect to find capacitors, resistors, op-amps, 74 
series logic, voltage regulators, breadboards, batteries, solder, wire, 
tools, soldering stations for some good honest sparky fun.


It's a bit of a random selection so do feel free to bring your own stuff 
too.


See http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/event/?articleid=31 for more info :-D


We'll also be radiating a DVB-T (aka "Freeview") signal for you guys to 
hack around with.  We've got some USB DVB-T sticks, some software links 
and a talk on how to hack DVB-T and MHEG interactive stuff.


--

*Simon Thompson MEng MIET*
Research Engineer (Electronics)
PRINCE2^TM Registered Practitioner

*BBC Future Media and Technology*

[backstage] Techcrunch BBC debate

[Peter Bowyer]

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned here already... or maybe I've
been asleep...

http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/06/12/the-techcrunch-bbc-debate/

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[backstage] Matt Cashmore on Tech Weekly

[Brian Butterworth]

http://download.guardian.co.uk/audio/1213737956679/8617/gdn.tec.080617.sc.Tech_Weekly.mp3

Enjoy...

--
Brian

Re: [backstage] Cool Accessibilty Hacks and Subtitles using BBC Redux @ Mashed

[Alia Sheikh]

Hi Christopher,

does that mean you'd like an account?:)
If you're coming to mashed and do, give me a shout

Alia

Christopher Woods wrote:
 
  
We are giving a talk called Cool Accessibilty Hacks and 
Subtitles using BBC Redux at Mashed this weekend.
For Mashed we're making an archive of our TV and radio 
programmes available on the web on a system called BBC Redux. 
You'll find our programmes in their native broadcast form 
(MPEG-2 transport streams or .ts files).



Blimey that sounds like a golden opportunity for some to really go a bit
leftfield with their concepts... Is it all* of the BBC's digitised archive,
or just a handpicked selection?

* within reason

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Re: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!

[Richard P Edwards]

Hi James,

I am looking forward to all these changes, I hope it will be great.
One quick question, regarding the iPlayer Radio is it possible on  
an update to make the volume control actually go down to zero? I can  
then watch the Magic Roundabout on Youtube instead of listening to  
the news... :-)

Mine's a pint of Dog-bolter or Abbott.
RichE

On 16 Jun 2008, at 18:48, James Cridland wrote:

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

2008/6/13 James Cridland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> As the man in charge of the Coyopa project, which'll be fiddling  
with a lot

> of our streams,
You mean this: 

?

Yep. It's in BH now. I saw it last week, warming up one of the  
apparatus rooms. And it's even working. Hopefully we'll switch  
stuff on within the next month. Some niggles to sort out still though.


> 2. Flash streaming "just works" for most people, and as the TV  
iPlayer has

> shown, a tremendously popular way of consuming content.
Not on mobiles. How about an Ogg stream with Cortado[1] for mobiles
(or other people who dislike Flash).

Agreed. We have plans on mobile also, though any solution must  
"just work". Yes, we're providing a ton of extra streams in  
different formats for wifi radios and the like to use; no, Ogg  
Vorbis is not one of them. I refer the gentleman to the answers I  
gave here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/03/ 
streaming_radio_online_your_co_1.shtml


Not sure whether our streaming will work on Gnash or not,  
incidentally. I'd think, for a while at least, it will.


> 3. HTTP downloads are not possible
I think the idea was to stream over HTTP. (or something that is
similar enough to streaming that no one notices).

RTMP or RTSP is streaming. Nobody (using Flash) will notice it's  
any different to any other experience they have. Again, it must  
"just work". HTTP streaming is less good for Content Restriction  
And Protection. (Again, sorry we have to put cr&p in our streams in  
this way, but we do.) (Yes, the abbreviation is intentional).


> I'm sorry we have to use it. But we have to use it.
Is there no a more open streaming protocol one could use?

Again, back to the Content Restriction And Protection issue; but  
also coupled with the knowledge that a typical user wants something  
that "just works".


> 5. A "pop-up player" will continue to be available in iPlayer  
when radio

> "moves in".
Unfortunately there is not much the BBC can really do about "stay on
top" however. If the OS/Browser don't provide it then you're out of
luck. Some OSes let any window "stay on top".

Yep, agreed. We can't provide "stay on top" with anything internet,  
without a software product, which people don't, generally,  
download. (Sweeping generalisation, but my experience).


If only browsers supported [2] and  tags, and if there
was actually some base codecs defined that would work on any browser.
(chicken/egg?)

Ye... to a point. There are some base codecs defined that work  
on any browser with Flash installed (ie virtually all of them); and  
that's the way that the world is going.


> Beer, anyone?
Are you buying? ;)

Nope. You? Mine's the guest ale.

//j