I can't leave that comment unchallenged, Dave.
To summarise then, the "bastards in the newsroom" should go get another job to
pay the bills so that they can support their journalism in their spare time,
sort themselves out and learn up about internet marketing and the brave new
world.
Seriou
2009/3/16 Brian Butterworth :
>
> One thing I am wondering, will News International realise that "The Times"
> brand needs a TV channel more than BSkyB does?
Hopefully not, because that would be an excellent idea for them to do so :)
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If you look at what "The Sun" does on mobile, it seems very geared up
to getting 'white van man' to spend the odd £1 or £2 when he is
sitting in his van bored. It certainly isn't what you'd call
traditional "public service broadcasting" news, but it seems very
cleverly targeted at their market.
al
All,
I've been reading this thread with great interest and it seems to sum the
whole current situation up rather well and I would add stuff but I've
buggered my rotator cuff (apparently).
The BBC being a "public service newspaper" - it is certainly a long way from
the days of Ceefax and three-TV-b
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
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> My hope with the change is that we'll get an answer to the questions
> MediaLens raise about the integrity of the profession.
My hope is that with the change MediaLens will find something better to do. ;-P
- Rob.
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2009/3/16 Kevin Anderson :
>
> Going back to some of the previous comments though, the resistance to the
> change wasn't just in the boardrooms, it was also in the newsrooms.
It strikes me as exceedingly likely that the bastards in the boardroom
will be joined in the dole queue by the bastards in
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:45, Kevin Anderson wrote:
>
>
> Yes, we're in a post-industrial era for journalism. That's been pretty
> clear to most of us who weren't wed to the old model. We don't really know
> what comes next.
There was a speech at SxSW on that -
http://www.stevenberlinjohnson.
On 16/03/2009 11:39, "Robert (Jamie) Munro" wrote:
> Kevin Anderson wrote:
>>
>> funding - the licence fee. Commercial newspapers are finding their
>> readership and advertising decline. Unless the licence fee were extended
>> to a public service newspaper (highly unlikely), the BBC doesn't prov
On 16 Mar 2009, 11:45 AM, "Robert (Jamie) Munro" wrote:
Kevin Anderson wrote: > > funding - the licence fee. Commercial newspapers
> are finding their > reade...
> I think that news.bbc.co.uk is already a public service newspaper -
> albeit one without a print edition.
>
> Robert (Jamie) Munro
>
Bingo :)
Regards, Dave
On 16 Mar 2009, 11:45 AM, "Robert (Jamie) Munro" wrote:
Kevin Anderson wrote: > > funding - the licence fee. Commercial newspapers
are finding their > reade...
I think that news.bbc.co.uk is already a public service newspaper -
albeit one without a print edition.
Robert
Kevin Anderson wrote:
>
> funding - the licence fee. Commercial newspapers are finding their
> readership and advertising decline. Unless the licence fee were extended
> to a public service newspaper (highly unlikely), the BBC doesn't provide
> that much of a model that could easily be transferred
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