Quite.
Would be so good if the Beeb were to put their weight behind a GStreamer
plugin for their content.. or one that could talk to multiple media
players... enabling, say, Mplayer, MythTV, totem,
whatever-the-heck-the-user-interface-is to talk to, select, and play
content.
Fine - stipulate stre
Syndication? I understand that to be "content fed out from a different
server architecture". This is a client to talk to BBC gear.
Umm - since *when* have you seen an open-source app flooded with ads?
Why has it got to be binary only? Why not release under something like
the Apache licence, or
Yes.. but this list was around before GeoIP, and before the Rights
holders had a clue about the internet. Equally, the Trust now.
I saw exactly the same things happening with music.
Now, twenty years later, some of the music Rights holders have got the
plot. What I would like to know is wh
If a streaming-only client was distributed in binary form (to ensure the
software will always only be streaming-only) and keys were sufficiently
protected, and NDAs and commercial agreements were signed you might get
somewhere. Of course reach, value, etc. would have to be evaluated.
However th
OK... but please answer me this.
What is the process by which a streaming-only plugin for, say, VLC
*could* be evaluated and approved.. even though it wasn't written
in-house by the Beeb?
This is the wall that the devs of Beebplayer and XBMC etc are bashing
their heads against. They are trying t
Not quite the whole story. People intending to pirate material will have no
qualms about faking out the iPlayer backend by pretending to be a legit
client... While those which simply enable a wider reach onto architectures not
directly developed for, and are trying to act in good faith... Are
Ok puts on bbc hat, lots of us like open source commit to open source etc
etc
iPlayer¹s a bit of a special case where were often legally bound not to
share the files for
Rights reasons or even if we do have the rights we have geoip agreements not
to share them abroad,
then if we do finally have al
On 30 Sep 2010, at 17:42, Alex Cockell wrote:
> And by doing so, they're only pissing off their best viewers - the early
> adopters. Shooting themselves in the foot when hobbyists only want to *help*
>
The alternative would be aggravating the people who they have license
agreements with that
And by doing so, they're only pissing off their best viewers - the early
adopters. Shooting themselves in the foot when hobbyists only want to *help*
- Original message -
> They've been going out of their way trying to stop unapproved apps
> grabbing content. They put a lot of effort in
On 30 Sep 2010, at 16:41, Iain Wallace wrote:
> Open Source gets a mention under meetings with Technology, Piracy and
> Enforcement ticked in the header of the minutes.
If you can suggest a way of facilitating the former without facilitating the
things that rights-holders want to prevent, that wo
They've been going out of their way trying to stop unapproved apps
grabbing content. They put a lot of effort into making sure content is
unavailable to open source systems when simply leaving it as is would
mean anyone could write on top of iPlayer.
e.g. read the second PDF
http://pjakma.wordpres
Replace BBC with iPlayer and I'd agree with some of those points, it's more
a indifference and lack of care rather than being directly hostile though.
And I'd say that will changes rather soon, due to various management
changes.
Ps since no one's publicly said I can't
Here's some really good
And yet they happily leech off the GNU ecosystem...
What changed? Their previous management didn't seem to mind...
- Original message -
> Unlikely. The BBC have gone out of their way to be hostile to open
> source attempts at using iPlayer content, however you will find
> working exampl
Unlikely. The BBC have gone out of their way to be hostile to open
source attempts at using iPlayer content, however you will find
working examples and programs for playing iPlayer stuff on pretty much
anything on that same wiki.
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Alex Cockell
wrote:
> I'm not per
Folks I dont know if anyone is interested in either chatbot technology or
virtual worlds for teaching & learning. If you are email me direct as we're
doing a couple of seminars in london (7/10) & brum (13/10) if anyone is
interested.
Not sure if I should post this here but as we once did a chatbot
I'm not personally looking for metadata, but it would be great if some of the
open-source players were permitted back into the fold, meaning that VLC and the
like could play BBC content... Especially for cpu architectures that Adobe
don't support.
Oh, and be able to distribute said player plugi
On 28/09/2010 08:32, Ant Miller wrote:
I'll try and see if we can get this up again. can't make any guaruntees
though- we're in the midst of a migration process right now, and restarting of
some services will have to wait for hardware.
You need CLOUD COMPUTING!
Gordo
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Gordon Joly
gord
Not sure what you're looking for, but all the metadata that iPlayer
pages uses to build a programme page is openly accessible
http://beebhack.wikia.com/wiki/IPlayer_Metadata
It can't not be otherwise the javascript on those pages wouldn't work.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Anthony McKale
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