Re: [backstage] A few interesting bits...
2008/9/7 Tim Dobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dave Crossland wrote: > > There is also the secondary technical issue of CPU muscle - can puny >> >> embedded devices like the iPhone and OpenMoko handle Java? ;p > > Good question, I'll give it a go. > The FR can cope with debian so perhaps java isn't out of the question, > however I can't see it being too much fun on 640x480 or the 400mhz processor > :P This is why I said 'handle,' not 'run' ;-) Cheers, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] A few interesting bits...
Dave Crossland wrote: > There is also the secondary technical issue of CPU muscle - can puny embedded devices like the iPhone and OpenMoko handle Java? ;p Good question, I'll give it a go. The FR can cope with debian so perhaps java isn't out of the question, however I can't see it being too much fun on 640x480 or the 400mhz processor :P -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] A few interesting bits...
Also very active on del.icio.us: http://delicious.com/jemimakiss Well worth adding her to your network. Spiros On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True. > > http://twitter.com/jemimakiss > > is one of the best twitters around... > > 2008/8/28 Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> We have friends in interesting places... >> >> >> Ian Forrester >> >> This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable >> >> Senior Producer, BBC Backstage >> Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> work: +44 (0)2080083965 >> mob: +44 (0)7711913293 >> >> >> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth >> Sent: 27 August 2008 13:44 >> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk >> Subject: [backstage] A few interesting bits... >> >> >> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/digitalcontent/2008/08/new_music_tools_from_bbc_backs.html >> - mention of Chris' rather brilliant "Now Playing" >> >> --- >> >> Brian Butterworth >> >> http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover >> advice, since 2002 > > > > -- > > Brian Butterworth > > http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, > since 2002 > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] A few interesting bits...
True. http://twitter.com/jemimakiss is one of the best twitters around... 2008/8/28 Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We have friends in interesting places... > > > Ian Forrester > > This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable > > Senior Producer, BBC Backstage > Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > work: +44 (0)2080083965 > mob: +44 (0)7711913293 > > > -- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth > *Sent:* 27 August 2008 13:44 > *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > *Subject:* [backstage] A few interesting bits... > > > http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/digitalcontent/2008/08/new_music_tools_from_bbc_backs.html > - mention of Chris' rather brilliant "Now Playing" > > --- > > Brian Butterworth > > http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover > advice, since 2002 > > -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] A few interesting bits...
Its such a shame because my HTC kaiser is more powerful that my current download machine (pentium 2 xeon 400mhz). HTC never fixed it but the community did release drivers which run on Windows mobile 6.1 only. I've noticed a huge increase in speed when trying to play video files using core player and the direct3d demos are very impressive. http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080717_1 Cheers, Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 28 August 2008 18:13 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] A few interesting bits... > Yes these machines can if the makers don't cripple them like Apple has > done and even my favourite mobile phone maker does, HTC. > > http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/23/poll-how-did-htc-mishandle- > the-video-driver-controversy/ > > I don't know if the Java/Flash thing really has any legs but the HTC > driver screw up is very serious. > (http://www.htcclassaction.org/) I'm glad I'm not the only person on this list who loves HTC devices but hates how they mishandled the ImageOn fiasco :( They never did fix it, did they? Glad I kept my Alpine for satnav duties, even though it doesn't have persistent RAM (yes, if the battery dies, it factory resets... Retro!) Have you heard anything about whether the Vario 4 (HTC Raphael) has the same issues? I skipped the Vario 3 and my Vario 2 has recently REALLY started to show signs of age... largely due to the abuse it's taken from me over the past 20 months... but I could really do with an upgrade sometime soon. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] A few interesting bits...
> Yes these machines can if the makers don't cripple them like > Apple has done and even my favourite mobile phone maker does, HTC. > > http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/23/poll-how-did-htc-mishandle- > the-video-driver-controversy/ > > I don't know if the Java/Flash thing really has any legs but > the HTC driver screw up is very serious. > (http://www.htcclassaction.org/) I'm glad I'm not the only person on this list who loves HTC devices but hates how they mishandled the ImageOn fiasco :( They never did fix it, did they? Glad I kept my Alpine for satnav duties, even though it doesn't have persistent RAM (yes, if the battery dies, it factory resets... Retro!) Have you heard anything about whether the Vario 4 (HTC Raphael) has the same issues? I skipped the Vario 3 and my Vario 2 has recently REALLY started to show signs of age... largely due to the abuse it's taken from me over the past 20 months... but I could really do with an upgrade sometime soon. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] A few interesting bits...
We have friends in interesting places... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 27 August 2008 13:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] A few interesting bits... http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/digitalcontent/2008/08/new_music_tools_from_bbc_backs.html - mention of Chris' rather brilliant "Now Playing" --- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] A few interesting bits...
Yes these machines can if the makers don't cripple them like Apple has done and even my favourite mobile phone maker does, HTC. http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/23/poll-how-did-htc-mishandle-the-video-driver-controversy/ I don't know if the Java/Flash thing really has any legs but the HTC driver screw up is very serious. (http://www.htcclassaction.org/) Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crossland Sent: 27 August 2008 15:51 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] A few interesting bits... >8 There is also the secondary technical issue of CPU muscle - can puny embedded devices like the iPhone and OpenMoko handle Java? ;p Cheers, Dave Personal opinion only. - - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] A few interesting bits...
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7582197.stm <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7582197.stm> > - seems "The Internet" must include Flash and Java, according to the ASA, of all people. Just wondered what Dave C makes of it... I think the point here is that the Internet /does/ include Flash and Java (and gopher and p2p networks and IRC etc. etc.) so Apple's claim that the whole of the Internet could be seen on their device was simply false. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 27 August 2008 13:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] A few interesting bits... http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/digitalcontent/2008/08/new_music_tools_from_ bbc_backs.html - mention of Chris' rather brilliant "Now Playing" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7582197.stm - seems "The Internet" must include Flash and Java, according to the ASA, of all people. Just wondered what Dave C makes of it... --- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
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2008/8/27 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7582197.stm > - seems "The Internet" must include Flash and Java, according to the ASA, > of all people. Just wondered what Dave C makes of it... The BBC journalist makes the important distinction between free and proprietary software, which I am very happy to see :-) I agree that the defacto web includes both free and proprietary software standards. That is why it is important that Sun, with contributions from project GNU coordinated by Red Hat in the Iced Tea project, have made Java free software; and also why the GNU Gnash project is working very hard at freeing up Flash. There is also the secondary technical issue of CPU muscle - can puny embedded devices like the iPhone and OpenMoko handle Java? ;p Cheers, Dave Personal opinion only. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] A few interesting bits...
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/digitalcontent/2008/08/new_music_tools_from_bbc_backs.html - mention of Chris' rather brilliant "Now Playing" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7582197.stm - seems "The Internet" must include Flash and Java, according to the ASA, of all people. Just wondered what Dave C makes of it... --- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
