Re: [backstage] Brandon on Redux on BBC Internet Blog

2008-10-27 Thread Rob Myers

Brian Butterworth wrote:


I'm not sure you have read it all, or perhaps I read it wrong.


My point is that it's a technological solution to the wrong legal problem.

As a technological solution it is astonishingly cool, though. I should 
have acknowledged that and I'm sorry for not doing so.


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Re: [backstage] Brandon on Redux on BBC Internet Blog

2008-10-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
Rob,
I'm not sure you have read it all, or perhaps I read it wrong.

To be honest, the system is almost exactly everything I would have
suggested.

Not only is everything kept in the original format for conversion to
whatever output format is desired, everything is properly tagged and
indexed.

The existence of an internal (and reviewer)  "long tail" just means there
will be such a system that should be rolled out to the whole of the UK.

I went on about all these things in the first backstage podcast and I am
very happy about the progress towards where the BBC needs to be.

I read the other day about how Andy Ducan was say the BBC wasn't "down with
the kids", but the iPlayer with the Wii and iPhone interface just shows how
the BBC can make its excellent content available to people who have migrated
from the TV.

I sold my TV ages ago, and just watch the iPlayer on a computer monitor...
perfect.

If were me, I might have wanted pre-DVB-T encoded sources!

It would be nice if the BBC News channel could also be archived and kept
online - along with the subtitle output for ease of search engine
indexing...

If you could navigate through the archive, you could link to them from
Wikipedia for a start.  It would be great for citizens of the UK to find
again the pronouncements by our great leaders and analysis of BBC
correspondents.  .

Would be just excellent for research...

Anwyay, full marks for Redux.  Damn good work IMHO.

2008/10/27 Rob Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/history_of_the_bbc_redux_
> > proje.html
>
> "In the summer of 2007, freetards (me too), the OSC and others were
> calling for the BBC to make iPlayer cross-platform
> ...
> Cross-platform support has always been a source of grief"
>
> The BBC's insistence that this is the problem rather than their use of
> licence-fee-payers money to lock people in to proprietary standards
> and exclude free platforms is getting more and more shrill.
>
> Breaking your public's devices one platform at a time really is not an
> achievement, no matter how interesting a technical problem it is for
> the Beeb's geeks or how strong their new leader's RDF is.
>
> - Rob.
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Re: [backstage] Brandon on Redux on BBC Internet Blog

2008-10-27 Thread Michael Walsh
2008/10/27 Rob Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> "In the summer of 2007, freetards (me too), the OSC and others were
> calling for the BBC to make iPlayer cross-platform
> ...
> Cross-platform support has always been a source of grief"
>
> The BBC's insistence that this is the problem rather than their use of
> licence-fee-payers money to lock people in to proprietary standards
> and exclude free platforms is getting more and more shrill.
>
> Breaking your public's devices one platform at a time really is not an
> achievement, no matter how interesting a technical problem it is for
> the Beeb's geeks or how strong their new leader's RDF is.
>
> - Rob.
> -
>
Eh - I don't think you read far enough:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/history_of_the_bbc_redux_proje.html

> We needed a different approach, to divorce our content production from
> delivery format and method - something quickly adaptable to new devices and
> the unmentionable "C word": convergence. [2]

 I'm not sure how you read this - but the way I read it, this isn't about
technical solutions, instead it's about a "different approach" in terms of
philosophy.
The goal being:

> Redux was built to support the rapid development of new services and was
> designed to scale in many directions.

With a view to:

> The aim remains - people can choose their player; we don't need to care.

So religious on the production, agnostic on the technology.

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Re: [backstage] Brandon on Redux on BBC Internet Blog

2008-10-27 Thread Rob Myers
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/history_of_the_bbc_redux_
> proje.html

"In the summer of 2007, freetards (me too), the OSC and others were
calling for the BBC to make iPlayer cross-platform
...
Cross-platform support has always been a source of grief"

The BBC's insistence that this is the problem rather than their use of
licence-fee-payers money to lock people in to proprietary standards
and exclude free platforms is getting more and more shrill.

Breaking your public's devices one platform at a time really is not an
achievement, no matter how interesting a technical problem it is for
the Beeb's geeks or how strong their new leader's RDF is.

- Rob.
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[backstage] Brandon on Redux on BBC Internet Blog

2008-10-27 Thread Alan Connor
With pics, stats, use of word "freetards" ;o)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/history_of_the_bbc_redux_
proje.html


 
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