Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-08 Thread Brian Butterworth
Or, of course, you could have pages of text that crossfade - have no scroll at all. They would be much better in that format anyway, because if you ever want to look at the credits, you are going to be using iPlayer or a PVR anyway and the freeze frame would be highly legible. On 8 March 2010 14:

RE: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-08 Thread Christopher Woods
> Who said we were deinterlacing to 25p? :-) Looks like 12p for sports programming ;) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstag

Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-08 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 8 Mar 2010, at 11:31, Kieran Kunhya wrote: >> Clearly you need a motion-compensated deinterlacer. ;-) >> > > It's still not going to be as good in 25p as it will in 50i in my opinion > unless the scroll speed is reduced. Though judging by recent attempts to > destroy end credits on virtual

Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-08 Thread Kieran Kunhya
> Clearly you need a motion-compensated deinterlacer. ;-) > It's still not going to be as good in 25p as it will in 50i in my opinion unless the scroll speed is reduced. Though judging by recent attempts to destroy end credits on virtually every channel I doubt slower speeds will be tolerated.

Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-08 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 8 Mar 2010, at 09:04, Kieran Kunhya wrote: From: Brian Butterworth >> Subject: Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this >> really the best we can get? >> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk >> Date: Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 19:15 >> It occurre

Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-08 Thread Kieran Kunhya
> From: Brian Butterworth > Subject: Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this > really the best we can get? > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Date: Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 19:15 > It occurred to me the other day that one > solution to the problem mig

Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-07 Thread Brian Butterworth
It occurred to me the other day that one solution to the problem might be to delinterlace the scrolling credits used at the end of programmes on the originals. It might even make them easier to read. On 6 March 2010 08:34, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > > Don't TV Catchup > > have both a low- and h

RE: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-06 Thread Kieran Kunhya
> Don't TV Catchup > have both a low- and high- quality streams, where the HQ > ones are > interlaced? > Not aware of multiple streams - > only ever watch at the > highest possible quality :) However, it > certainly doesn't look like > it's been encoded as interlaced (which would make > a

RE: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-05 Thread Christopher Woods
Don't TV Catchup have both a low- and high- quality streams, where the HQ ones are interlaced? Not aware of multiple streams - only ever watch at the highest possible quality :) However, it certainly doesn't look like it's been encoded as interlaced (which would make absolutely NO sense whatso

Re: [backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-03-05 Thread Brian Butterworth
Don't TV Catchup have both a low- and high- quality streams, where the HQ ones are interlaced? On 28 February 2010 21:27, Christopher Woods wrote: > Watching the CA v. US icehockey final, I noticed - once again - that the > BBC > Sports online stream, at [1], is horribly deinterlaced. Image sampl

[backstage] RE: BBC Flash video and deinterlacing - is this really the best we can get?

2010-02-28 Thread Christopher Woods
Watching the CA v. US icehockey final, I noticed - once again - that the BBC Sports online stream, at [1], is horribly deinterlaced. Image sample: [2]. However, TVCatchup's BBC2 stream, at [3], which sources from Freeview, looks fine. How come TVC can do a better job at progressive video than the B