Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-05 Thread Martin Belam
why would Apple prevent users installing another browser? Surely not - I thought there was only one big computer company in the world who ever used restrictive anti-competitive practices? Well, at least only one who regularly gets called out for it anyway :-) all the best, martin On 05/07/07

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-05 Thread ~:'' ありがとうございました 。
Ian, It does seem sad that SVG isn't supported, given that developers weren't thrilled by wwdc this may be par. Opera's nose is also out, why would Apple prevent users installing another browser? would this be legal in Europe? the keyboard video smacks of Newton, but sales are high, so.

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Frank Wales
On 07/04/2007 10:22 PM, Gordon Joly wrote: >> So I can take photos, but can't upload them to Flickr? > > Use email? > > :-) If I wanted to use e-mail for everything, I'd move back to 1992. (I suspect my ping times to flickr.com would become excessive, though.) Besides, Apple loudly proclaim tha

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Gordon Joly
> + no file uploading () > Not really suprising on a "closed" device. So I can take photos, but can't upload them to Flickr? Use email? :-) Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To u

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Richard Smedley
Hello Dom, On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 21:27 +0100, Dom Ramsey wrote: > > > Many AJAXy sites use hovering or mouse-overs to disclose > > > extra options, previews or menus that don't seem available > > > otherwise, so this will potentially break many trendy sites. > > Not only is such discriminatory be

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Frank Wales
On 07/04/2007 09:27 PM, Dom Ramsey wrote: > Nobody was suggesting *javascript only*. > > Javascript can be used to provide useful visual feedback for all kinds > of elements. And it's quite common for AJAX to be used to enhance the > usability of a site, rather than restrict it. > > Providing intui

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Dom Ramsey
On 4 Jul 2007, at 19:45, Richard Smedley wrote: On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 18:30 +0100, Frank Wales wrote: + no mouse-over events There's no mouse! Many AJAXy sites use hovering or mouse-overs to disclose extra options, previews or menus that don't seem available otherwise, so this will poten

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Richard Smedley
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 18:30 +0100, Frank Wales wrote: > > + no mouse-over events > > > > There's no mouse! > > Many AJAXy sites use hovering or mouse-overs to disclose > extra options, previews or menus that don't seem available > otherwise, so this will potentially break many trendy sites.

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Mr I Forrester
Is it just me but wouldn't this be the perfect device for a SVG interface? Oh well, what a waste... Frank Wales wrote: Meanwhile, in actual news, Apple have published just how close they got to making developing for the iPhone just like web development: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/desi

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Frank Wales
Brian Butterworth wrote: > + no Flash > > No bad thing that! Lots of sites use it, whether it's liked or not. I suspect this will be the first item on the list to change, once Adobe accede to whatever comedy business terms Jobs is suggesting to them, according to sources in my imagination.

Re: [backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 04/07/07, Frank Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Meanwhile, in actual news, Apple have published just how close they got to making developing for the iPhone just like web development: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/designingcontent.html Apart from the usual mobile device constraints of d

[backstage] iFiddlingDetails

2007-07-04 Thread Frank Wales
Meanwhile, in actual news, Apple have published just how close they got to making developing for the iPhone just like web development: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/designingcontent.html Apart from the usual mobile device constraints of display size, input devices and network speed, I see t