At 14:04 + 9/11/05, Andrew Bowden wrote:
Betsie is a bull in a sledgehammer/nut approach to accessibility from a
time when that was the only way to crack the nut. Now, someone has
invented the nutcracker.
Of course not everyone yet has a nutcracker so we still need the
sledgehammer, but i
> Subject: Re: [backstage] iMP: accessibility, is the smell
> really that bad?
>
>
> Betsie was for an age when only one version of a site was usually
> produced. The advent of CSS and more importantly I think,
> XSLT and XML
> means it's much easier and cleaner t
Betsie was for an age when only one version of a site was usually
produced. The advent of CSS and more importantly I think, XSLT and XML
means it's much easier and cleaner to produce XML datasets of websites
and parse the contents through XSLT to produce differing compliant outputs..
Gordon J
Betsie's days are no doubt numbered - modern coding techniques allow
much greater accessibility to be built into webpages, allowing
accessibility without having to resort to parsers like Betsie. You can
do a huge amount with a sensible HTML structure and CSS
layout/presenation techniques.
I
Yay CSS rocks, time for a visit to the CSS Zen garden: http://www.csszengarden.com/
On 08/11/05, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Because it's written entirely in standards compliant code, with CSS, socan be rendered using a user-applied stylesheet, I think?I've heard - and this is just on
[backstage] iMP: accessibility, is the smell really that
bad?
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/
Why is there no "text only" link on this page? There is on most pages
on bbc.co.uk...
Feel free to use this!
http://www.recursion.co.uk/cgi-bin/betsie.cgi/www.bbc.co.uk/acc
I wouldnt be suprised to see MP4 as the distribution method with
attached DRM (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62723).
MP4 will be well supported by Windows, Apple and Linux and in other
devices such as PSP, Mobinote etc it is the default format.
I dont think your ever going
> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/
> Why is there no "text only" link on this page? There is on most pages
> on bbc.co.uk...
Probably because it has accessibility features built into the page
itself, which allow the presentation in a similar way to what Betsie
provides, and in some aspects, b
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, James wrote:
Here's a few screenies: http://www.webcoding.co.uk/imp/
Note that you can actually play the DRM'd files in Media Player itself, it
doesnt have to go through the iMP player "design". All the video's can be
fast forwarded etc without issue.
With all this DRMed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/
Why is there no "text only" link on this page? There is on most pages
on bbc.co.uk...
Feel free to use this!
http://www.recursion.co.uk/cgi-bin/betsie.cgi/www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/
No charge!
Gordo
--
"Think Feynman"/
http://pobox.com/~g
Thanks for the screenshots James.
So unless they just ripped the graphics from WMP (possible but
unlikely) it's using that as an embedded client.
It could be worth trying some of the standard WM player keyboard
shortcuts, eg F9/F10 for volume, ALT+ENTER for full screen, and see
if it interce
Here's a few screenies: http://www.webcoding.co.uk/imp/
Note that you can actually play the DRM'd files in Media Player itself,
it doesnt have to go through the iMP player "design". All the video's
can be fast forwarded etc without issue.
Jim.
Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
At 12:
At 12:01 07/11/2005, you wrote:
Since it's a testing beta more aimed at testing the technology and
the idea I'm sure the accessibility elements will come in when it's out.
The boards suggest a limited budget to examine this idea and that's
why we havent seen a linux or mac client and I suspect t
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Mark Simpkins wrote:
How about a 'Rate this weather' option? Just grade how accurate you
thought the weather forcast was for your area.
Isithotornot.com?
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Reminds me of an old idea...
Weather from Yahoo, BBC, Met Office all re
> -Original Message-
> From: Gordon Joly
> (Ignore that fact that temperatures forecast may differ by as much as
> 5 degrees C:-)
Reminds me of an old idea...
Weather from Yahoo, BBC, Met Office all regularly seem to differ quite
widely, based purely on personal subjective checking. So.
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iMP: accessibility, is the smell really that bad?
Does anyone have links to positive reports
At 08:57 + 5/11/05, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:
iMP: accessibility, is the smell really that bad?
Does anyone have links to positive reports on the accessibility of iMP?
According to: http://cms.elfden.co.uk/2005/10/18/bbc-imp-trial-part-1/
"Accessibility wise it stinks. No keyboard access wh
iMP: accessibility, is the smell really that bad?
Does anyone have links to positive reports on the accessibility of iMP?
According to: http://cms.elfden.co.uk/2005/10/18/bbc-imp-trial-part-1/
"Accessibility wise it stinks. No keyboard access what so ever."
Who is responsible for accessibi
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