RE: [backstage] Psiphon

2006-11-29 Thread Lee Goddard
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Miller > > I too agree with Tom, it all depends how you read into the > data. Other details would be when the data was collected, and > from what areas of the country, and what broadband uptake is > like in the area. And

RE: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content

2006-11-29 Thread Kim Plowright
Heh, Second Life Speaking of which: the list might be interested in this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/listings/programme.shtml?day=tuesday&service _id=4223&FILENAME=20061205/20061205_2235_4223_3276_50 (Mn, how broken are our listing pages? Quick, someone remind me of one of the mashups?)

RE: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content

2006-11-29 Thread Ian Forrester
I keep meaning to draw this out and post it on my blog --- my own thoughts on TV generations --- 1st generation - Mainstream TV watchers, Tend to be stuck to the Broadcast Schedule, will get home to watch a certain thing, will see lots of adverts etc. Will tend to have Cable, Sky or Free view

(freeing) content is king (was Re: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content)

2006-11-29 Thread Nic James Ferrier
"Ian Forrester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I keep meaning to draw this out and post it on my blog I am suprised at the level of heavy breathing going on about Grade's departure. Clearly there is very little vision in the executive branch of the television industry right now. I think it's time

Re: (freeing) content is king (was Re: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content)

2006-11-29 Thread Martin Belam
Ian, why don't you apply for the job of Chairman of the BBC? I think the Chairman is more of a strategic hands-off job, and I'm sure Ian would miss getting his hands dirty with widget code :-) On 29/11/06, Nic James Ferrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Ian Forrester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wri

Re: (freeing) content is king (was Re: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content)

2006-11-29 Thread Richard Hyett
On 29/11/06, Martin Belam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian, why don't you apply for the job of Chairman of the BBC? I think the Chairman is more of a strategic hands-off job, and I'm sure Ian would miss getting his hands dirty with widget code :-) He, Michael, wants to commission great conte

[backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-29 Thread Nic James Ferrier
"Martin Belam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Ian, why don't you apply for the job of Chairman of the BBC? > > I think the Chairman is more of a strategic hands-off job, and I'm > sure Ian would miss getting his hands dirty with widget code :-) Surely, the Chairman decides what he can do. I see

RE: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-29 Thread Ian Forrester
Well I don't know about Chairman. I wouldn't hack perl, xsl yes - perl no ;) But seriously, thanks for thinking of me for the position :) Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nic James Ferrier Se

Re: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-29 Thread Nic James Ferrier
"Ian Forrester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well I don't know about Chairman. > > I wouldn't hack perl, xsl yes - perl no ;) > > But seriously, thanks for thinking of me for the position :) I was only half joking. Clearly we have a monopoly on the vision thing right now. -- Nic Ferrier htt

RE: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-29 Thread Andrew Bowden
> Surely, the Chairman decides what he can do. > I see no reason at all why the Chairman couldn't hack perl. > It's just that most Chairman don't. Well the BBC Chair of the Governers role (soon to be in charge of the BBC Trust - more arms length from the BBC) doesn't - I believe - specify Perl sk

Re: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content

2006-11-29 Thread Richard P Edwards
Ian, As a geriatric, I am pleased to be 3rd Generation, with a hint of 4th !! I'm looking forward to real virtual reality as well, been waiting since 1987 although Second Life isn't up my street. but an interactive band on youtube is.. so my vision is very different from the nor

BBC::Trust::Chair (was RE: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king)

2006-11-29 Thread Brendan Quinn
Hey, don't knock it, it might work well: the new chair could mandate that all commissioning pitches should be written in perldoc, or maybe Template Toolkit, and we switch off the telly and radio transmitters and force everyone to download their shows from CPAN. perl -MCPAN -e 'install BBC::Drama::

RE: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-29 Thread Tom Howe
ah but they could write a perl script automate regulation, then bugger off to play golf ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden Sent: 29 November 2006 15:26 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Re: (freeing) conte

RE: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content

2006-11-29 Thread Ian Forrester
Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P Edwards Sent: 29 November 2006 16:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content Ian, As a geriatric, I am p

RE: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Only the BBC would be having a conversation about it's Chairman having to code Perl to get the job... Over at ITV they're talking Ruby, whilst at BSkyB they're wondering what particular version of MHEG their CEO should be using. m -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-29 Thread Ian Forrester
Seeing how everyone's so vocal about the BBC recently, I thought it was worth turning our attention to the W3C (yeah it wasn't as slick a transition as it should have been) Mark Pilgrim outlines the friction which is building up between developers in the field and the tall towers of the W3C?

RE: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Rewrite MHEG as OpenTV... Silly me m -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore Sent: 29 November 2006 16:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king Only the BBC would be having a co

Re: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content

2006-11-29 Thread Frank Wales
Ian Forrester wrote: I keep meaning to draw this out and post it on my blog Aw, fuff. I'm too busy writing individual, pithy-oid quips on mailing lists to post things in my blog. (Hold on, I think I'm having an epiphany...nope, just gas.) --- my own thoughts on TV generations --- Maybe I'

Re: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-29 Thread Dan Brickley
Ian Forrester wrote: Seeing how everyone's so vocal about the BBC recently, I thought it was worth turning our attention to the W3C (yeah it wasn't as slick a transition as it should have been) Mark Pilgrim outlines the friction which is building up between developers in the field and the ta

Re: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content

2006-11-29 Thread Richard Lockwood
I hear about a really cool programme, such as 'Itchy and Scratchy meet the Fairly Odd Parents -- on ice!', which was so subversive they'll *never* be allowed to show it again. Just you wait until my until-now secret project; "100 Greatest Asbestos Removal Disasters" gets aired... Oh - and if an

RE: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content

2006-11-29 Thread Clare OLeary
Hi In the spirit of 'play', check out Stray Cinema,which is a short film shot in London by a kiwi, then uploaded to the web - you can download it and remix it and add 20% of your own original content - its kind of an experiment and all based on the Creative Commons licence as well as in the spirit

Re: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-29 Thread Allan Jardine
My brief take: now is the time for W3C to move out of the industry consortium / browser wars mode of operation, and to catch up with the ways of working popularised by the opensource movement: most importantly - publically visible, bloggable, google-able archives for all technical discussi

Re: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-29 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Allan Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's also interesting to note that, in part, the resurgence of > standards based development can be attributed to the non-standard > xmlhttprequest javascript object (thank you Microsoft - can't believe > I said that - although the gears are now se

Re: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-29 Thread Frank Wales
On 11/29/2006 04:22 PM, Matthew Cashmore wrote: > Only the BBC would be having a conversation about it's Chairman having > to code Perl to get the job... Over at ITV they're talking Ruby, Ruby? At ITV? What? [checks immediate surroundings for signs of severe reality distortion] If the BBC req

Re: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-29 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Frank Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ruby? At ITV? What? > > [checks immediate surroundings for signs of severe reality distortion] > > If the BBC required senior management to possess practical perl prowess, > ITV would surely demand rock'n'roll, drag'n'plop PowerPoint skilz, so > they can