Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Brian Butterworth
I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it quite well.. 'I have opened myself to charges of the most monstrous hypocrisy by championing open source and free software while simultaneously using proprietary systems here and there, hither and yon. I hold my hand up to the sin

RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Deirdre Harvey
Am I the only person in the world who finds Stephen Fry an unutterable bore? That is a lot of words to use to say Big Fat Nothing. Summed up better as I like the idea of free software but I basically can't be arsed putting myself to any inconvenience Hardly a groundbreaking position for

Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Steve Jolly
Brian Butterworth wrote: I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it quite well.. Hear hear. :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list

RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Rupert Watson
Are you calling Stephen well covered? Rupert Watson +44 7787554801 www.root6.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Jolly Sent: 16 October 2008 09:02 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Similarly, if Channel 4 want to DRM all their media then it's entirely their choice because they don't have my money and they aren't funded by what amounts to a tax. If I was a Channel 4 shareholder I might raise the

RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Andrew Bowden
Similarly, if Channel 4 want to DRM all their media then it's entirely their choice because they don't have my money and they aren't funded by what amounts to a tax. If I was a Channel 4 shareholder I might raise the same issues of DRM at an AGM. You are a Channel 4 shareholder. In

Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Iain Wallace
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it quite well.. 'I have opened myself to charges of the most monstrous hypocrisy by championing open source and free software while simultaneously using

Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Iain Wallace
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Scot McSweeney-Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Similarly, if Channel 4 want to DRM all their media then it's entirely their choice because they don't have my money and they aren't

RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread John O'Donovan
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RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Deirdre Harvey
Deirdre Harvey :: Web Producer :: BBC Newsline :: Newsroom :: BBC Broadcasting House :: Ormeau Avenue :: Belfast BT2 8HQ :: ph. 02890 338264 http://bbc.co.uk/newsline -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Wallace Sent: 16 October

Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Michael
On Thursday 16 October 2008 14:21:18 Andrew Bowden wrote: Nope.  It's fully public - the Channel 4 Television Corporation officially. Ahh, maybe I'm thinking of a discussion in 2004 where it mooted having a share release then, leaving it at 51%. Obviously that never happened. Michael. --

Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dobson
Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/10/15 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, the fact that this will run on all the Linux PCs in both my houseand office is a shockingly pro-Microsoft move and must be stopped! The fact that this will run only with proprietary software is continuing the BBC's

Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Phil Wilson
I wonder how one can best persuade the relevant people at the BBC to lay out, adopt and embrace a forward thinking strategy to allow end users to access any and all of their services using only free software... I suspect that, for the most part, it isn't the BBC that you need to convince.

Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc

2008-10-16 Thread Sean DALY
Indeed I had been under the impression there was progress when Ashley Highfield told me last November that long-term, DRM should be open source or better yet, work should be done with rights holders to do away with DRM. In my conversations with people from PACT I got the distinct impression that