Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer

2010-05-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
Mo, Dave got the beebPlayer app working OK on Android. Until the BBC reversed the stated position and got it banned. Shouldn't be too hard... On 26 May 2010 23:35, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On 26-May-2010, at 23:11, Brian Butterworth wrote: Let's hope the same priority has been

Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer

2010-05-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
It isn't the doublespeak that bothers me, I can cope with that, I am used it it. It is the reversal in position without any public notification that I find distasteful. Web pages get deleted and the policy changes, but no public notification is made. On 27 May 2010 08:54, Mo McRoberts

Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer

2010-05-27 Thread Iain Wallace
Was BeebPlayer actually banned by the BBC then? I was trying to get the story on why it suddenly vanished. What could the issue possibly be with it? On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Mo, Dave got the beebPlayer app working OK on Android.  Until the

Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer

2010-05-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
Dave posted Awesome - looks like the Beeb have changed iPlayer enough to break beebPlayer once again.8:43 AM May 13thhttp://twitter.com/johnsto/status/13901166595 via Twitter for Android http://mobile.twitter.com/ from here http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.4029042,0.0167886 and a very short

Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer

2010-05-27 Thread Paul Webster
BBC have now enabled auto detection of iPad ... now presents the bigscreen version - but not on the beta iPlayer site. Paul On Thu, 27 May 2010 13:06:18 +0100, you wrote: Dave posted Awesome - looks like the Beeb have changed iPlayer enough to break beebPlayer once again.8:43 AM May

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2010-05-27 Thread Richard P Edwards
I thought this was an interesting summary http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bbc_drm_and_demise_get_iplayer_what_hell_going I read some quite thought provoking stories of what the Publishers are up to . so once PACT and other old fashioned societies get involved, then the

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2010-05-27 Thread Kieran Kunhya
What actually needs to happen is that Open Source needs to call the BBCs bluff by actually implementing the SWF verification stuff and producing an application with a compelling user experience that matches or is better than anything else on offer. --- On Thu, 27/5/10, Richard P Edwards

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2010-05-27 Thread Iain Wallace
You realise that Open Source isn't an organisation that designs software, right? You also realise we've had SWF verification software for quite a long time and we're happily using it to download video behind SWF verified flash apps? I really don't think user experience is the issue. My user

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2010-05-27 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 18:10, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: The point is the view is that Open Source software isn't considered bothering about by the BBC because too few people use it and there's the fear of piracy. (in spite of the fact that downloads from VoD aren't used by

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2010-05-27 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 10:10 -0700, Kieran Kunhya wrote: You realise that Open Source isn't an organisation that designs software, right? You also realise we've had SWF verification software for quite a long time and we're happily using it to download video behind SWF verified flash apps? The

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2010-05-27 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On 27 May 2010, at 20:42, David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: Personally, all my use of iPlayer content is to fetch something I'm already aware of; I'm not just browsing randomly. And for that, I find that a command line tool gives a _much_ better experience than any point-and-drool

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2010-05-27 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 22:56 +0100, Jonathan Tweed wrote: On 27 May 2010, at 20:42, David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: Personally, all my use of iPlayer content is to fetch something I'm already aware of; I'm not just browsing randomly. And for that, I find that a command line tool