Re: [backstage] BBC News Live Stats XML - come and get it!

2006-06-23 Thread Mario Menti
On 6/23/06, Matt Rink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know this is kind of a late follow up but I got bored a fews daysago and decided to build this module/gadget for Google's personalisedhomepage that used the data Ben provided. I hadn't built one before soI thought it would be a good start.
You can select the region and the number of items to display.http://mattrink.co.uk/gadgets/bbcTopStories.xmlThanks to Mario for his now/next module. It is a great example
Thanks Matt,so this is based on the LiveMapStats XML files, right?And as a side question, why did you set inlining as required - is it just the variable gadget height? If so, I think you'd be better of living with a fixed height and scrollbars, as forcing inlining may alienate people due to the extra security prompt..
Cheers,Mario.


Re: [backstage] BBC News Live Stats XML - come and get it!

2006-06-14 Thread Gordon Joly

At 16:36 +0100 13/6/06, Ben Metcalfe wrote:

Hey folks, welcome to me on the other side!

So the BBC News Website just released Live Stats features across the
news website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5071754.stm).





But the visits (pageviews) will be affected but publishing the data 
in a positive feed back loop, surely?


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RE: [backstage] BBC News Live Stats XML - come and get it!

2006-06-14 Thread Jason Cartwright
It's a good point Gordon, however I'd argue that not many people
(relatively) will be clicking those links *just* because they are
popular. I'd argue that the links around the story (related to it,
and/or in the same section as it) are much more likely to be clicked by
the user - and even more so, the stories on indexes picked by editors as
being important.

This is not to say that this view on the data isn't interesting (pretty
much any new view on the data is, IMHO) - I think just because its
popular doesn't mean its a 'good' enough reason for your average user to
click it (which remember - we're not).

Perhaps someone from News will have the results of a usability study, or
even hard clickthrough data (now it's live) to correct me :-)

J


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Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC News Live Stats XML - come and get it!

At 16:36 +0100 13/6/06, Ben Metcalfe wrote:
Hey folks, welcome to me on the other side!

So the BBC News Website just released Live Stats features across the 
news website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5071754.stm).




But the visits (pageviews) will be affected but publishing the data in a
positive feed back loop, surely?

Gordo

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[backstage] BBC News Live Stats XML - come and get it!

2006-06-13 Thread Ben Metcalfe

Hey folks, welcome to me on the other side!

So the BBC News Website just released Live Stats features across the
news website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5071754.stm).

But in fine hacker tradition I've not been wasting my unemployment to
sit around in my underwear watching fucking Trisha and QVC (arhh, it's
good to be able to swear and not use my this is the BBC
formalities... ha ha!).

Oh, no instead I've been busy hacking out the URLs for the XML that
powers the Flash they've used to build the maps.  Here's a taste:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi/live_stats/data/country0.xml
- Most popular current stories on the site (for all regions)
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi/live_stats/data/country99.xml
- Most emailed stories

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi/live_stats/data/today_hourly.xml
- Most popular story by hour (for today, also yesterday is available)

There's also a new breaking news RSS file:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_world_edition/breaking_news/rss.xml

It all looks like it's updated pretty often, so there's all sorts of
temporal analysis and similar good shit you could do with this.

On my blog I've got a complete run down of all the urls (including
most popular by region) and an explanation on how to derive story urls
from the ids contained in XML feeds.  So check out
http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/index.php/2006/06/13/bbc-news-adds-live-stats-xml/


Let me know what you get up to.  Have fun.

Oh, and expect plenty more of this good shit real soon...



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