RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Bowden
The BBC decided not to celebrate 70 years of television that started at Alexandra Palace in 1936 that is in 2006. Or did I miss something? IIRC the Heritage site was revamped and greatly extended. http://www.bbc.co.uk/heritage/index.shtml 70 years is an odd one though - 75 seems a slightly

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-06 Thread Frank Wales
Gordon Joly wrote: The BBC decided not to celebrate 70 years of television that started at Alexandra Palace in 1936 that is in 2006. Or did I miss something? The face-sucking-alien that used Alexandra Palace episode of 'Doctor Who', shown last summer? (Although I would understand if you'd

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-06 Thread Gordon Joly
At 09:53 + 6/2/07, Peter Bowyer wrote: On 06/02/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BBC decided not to celebrate 70 years of television that started at Alexandra Palace in 1936 that is in 2006. Or did I miss something? IIRC the Heritage site was revamped and greatly

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-05 Thread Kim Plowright
In order to help me, once they are written I'm going to publish the first chapter or two under a creative commons licence, and post it on my website. This will also have the side benefit of telling me if anyone else thinks I'm any good. If instead of publishing on my website, I could submit

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-05 Thread vijay chopra
On an individual basis, it gives exposure, and feedback and helps new talent. If the BBC editors decide that one of my short stories should be broadcast, then I can go to a publisher and say Publish me, the BBC thinks I'm good enough to broadcast (maybe I could go to BBC books, and say your

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-05 Thread Michael Sparks
On Monday 05 February 2007 17:27, vijay chopra wrote: If instead of publishing on my website, I could submit previous short stories to the BBC for a possibility of a reading on a BBC radio station (probably BBC 7, though I'd personally like BBC radio 4). I don't think that scales.

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-05 Thread Gordon Joly
The BBC decided not to celebrate 70 years of television that started at Alexandra Palace in 1936 that is in 2006. Or did I miss something? Since 1995 the Palace has been a Grade II listed building. It was designed to be The People's Palace and later nicknamed (allegedly by Gracie Fields)

action serials (was Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals)

2007-02-05 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You never know though, there maybe someone reading this thread thinking ooh, that's a nice idea :) Then again, you could probably scale it if you had some form of peer review system in place, and you took all the short chapters in a standard form

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread vijay chopra
The day the BBC sells its airwaves to the highest bidder in this way is the day they betray the public's trust. You misunderstand, I wasn't advocating that they sell to the highest bidder, merely expressing the view that there are so many people wishing to be on the BBC that the BBC

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
Bowden Sent: 02 February 2007 09:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals Frank Wales Andrew Bowden wrote: If everyone - and I mean everyone - made their DVD player multi-region, it would be far

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 02/02/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely the whole point of DVD regions is that it was a non-legal way of implementing the ability to restrict international free trade. That's right, and this is summarised in the memorable phrase, code is law :-) And it's the same with

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 01/02/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: offer very little on demand, or use DRM - Tom L, the other week. Would you prefer DRMed content on Linux, or just the current video offerings? I'd like all of it in a 'free' format right now please isn't possible, at least not right now.

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Michael Sparks
vijay chopra wrote: The day the BBC sells its airwaves to the highest bidder in this way is the day they betray the public's trust. You misunderstand, I wasn't advocating that they sell to the highest bidder, merely expressing the view that there are so many people wishing to be on

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Kim Plowright
I believe that you would see some big players come forward to take advantage of the service. At the same time it opens the power of the BBC to lesser known artists, independent studios and even totally independent artists (a bit like a book publisher who accepts unsolicited manuscripts).

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crossland Sent: 02 February 2007 12:29 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals On 02/02/07, Brian

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Andrew Bowden
This is vaguely similar to something ITV is doing with ITV Local[1] - something they spoke about at TV from the Nations Regions in Salford a couple of weeks ago. (Incidentally, there was a suggestion to rename User Generated Content to Home Made instead, largely because the latter has

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Kim Plowright
Oops, hit return with finger on control at same time http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onemusic/unsigned/ The url I was trying to paste in. The interesting thing with this kind of stuff is the editorial effort it takes to create a compelling service for the people who are just watching stuff in this

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread vijay chopra
Are you an artist? Have you put on a show? Have you performed music live? Have you been on stage? Have you ever put on or been a part of a amateur (or professional) dramatics production? (if you haven't you should it's great fun :-) Given your comments here, I think it might help inform your

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Michael Sparks
I personally like shows like Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate, Backyardigans and so on. None of which are cheap. How do they get made if they have to pay for space? What's their income? Currently in the traditional way, but the next pilot (script written in a basement

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread Alice Taylor
, February 02, 2007 10:48 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals I personally like shows like Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate, Backyardigans and so on. None of which are cheap. How do they get made

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-02 Thread vijay chopra
On 02/02/07, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally like shows like Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate, Backyardigans and so on. None of which are cheap. How do they get made if they have to pay for space? What's their income? Currently in the traditional way, but

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-01 Thread Andrew Bowden
Hi Jeremy, From your first link: This requires the BBC to develop an alternative DRM framework to enable users of other technology, for example, Apple and Linux, to access the on-demand services. They do realise that this will be virtually impossible, don't they?

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-01 Thread vijay chopra
Any DRM system will be hacked regardless of platform. GNU/Linux is no exception. Does that make any Linux DRM potentially any less secure than a Windows version? I doubt it myself. I totally agree, however I think spending money developing DRM is a waste of licence payers money because, as

RE: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-01 Thread Andrew Bowden
I totally agree, however I think spending money developing DRM is a waste of licence payers money because, as we seem to agree, it will be defeated and thus ultimately pointless. There's levels of security that DRM (and similar) provides, and as long as that level is deemed

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-01 Thread Frank Wales
vijay chopra wrote: When will media corporations realise that p***ing off their customers is not the best way to make money, Well, they're still making money despite suing the public, treating them all like criminals, and claiming that skipping adverts on commercial TV is stealing the

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-01 Thread Frank Wales
Andrew Bowden wrote: If everyone - and I mean everyone - made their DVD player multi-region, it would be far harder to justify making region-encoded DVDs. DVD region coding rides on the coat-tails of different international video standards, so I think pressure against DVD region coding could

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-01 Thread George Wright
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 20:30 +, vijay chopra wrote: I would rather the BBC aired all that stuff with expired copyright, When we show repeats the viewers aren't happy :( all that copyleft\creative commons talent, and gave exposure to new talent who are willing to show me how good they are

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-02-01 Thread Frank Wales
On 02/01/2007 08:30 PM, vijay chopra wrote: I would rather the BBC aired all that stuff with expired copyright, all that copyleft\creative commons talent, and gave exposure to new talent who are willing to show me how good they are without dictating how I use what I've seen. I would rather

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust reaches Provisional Conclusions on BBC on-demand proposals

2007-01-31 Thread vijay chopra
Hi Jeremy, From your first link: This requires the BBC to develop an alternative DRM framework to enable users of other technology, for example, Apple and Linux, to access the on-demand services. They do realise that this will be virtually impossible, don't they? any iPlayer client that offers