Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread A Braxis
t; Les Mikesell wrote on 2013-03-15 10:47:34 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] > Per-PC pools]: > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Tyler J. Wagner > wrote: > > > > >> I for one can't imagine why he wouldn't come here with his problems. > After > > &

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, Les Mikesell wrote on 2013-03-15 10:47:34 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools]: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > > >> I for one can't imagine why he wouldn't come here with his problems. After > >> all, he received su

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Stephen Joyce wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Les Mikesell > wrote: >> >> But the experience here says that >> changing complex code requires extensive testing before trusting it. >> It isn't a matter of not imagining this use case - it is going beyond

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread backuppc
Adam Goryachev wrote at about 02:45:51 +1100 on Saturday, March 16, 2013: > PS, just for the record, I also think it's not the best path, custom > versions of software always lead to pain (in my experience), so unless > there is some major commercial advantage, then I steer clear. If it is > re

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread Stephen Joyce
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > But the experience here says that > changing complex code requires extensive testing before trusting it. > It isn't a matter of not imagining this use case - it is going beyond > and imagining if something goes wrong, or if you had to take o

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread Adam Goryachev
On 16/03/13 02:27, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > On 2013-03-15 12:08, A Braxis wrote: >> I for one can't imagine why he wouldn't come here with his problems. After >> all, he received such a warm reception this time. ;-D > I am also not happy with the snarky responses lately. "I don't understand > why y

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread Steve
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > On 2013-03-15 15:27, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: >> I am also not happy with the snarky responses lately. I understand both points of view - while this is supposed to be the "users" list, it has become the list for just about everything backup

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: >> I for one can't imagine why he wouldn't come here with his problems. After >> all, he received such a warm reception this time. ;-D > > I am also not happy with the snarky responses lately. "I don't understand > why you are doing this, b

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2013-03-15 15:27, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > I am also not happy with the snarky responses lately. "I don't understand > why you are doing this, but I'll judge you for it." "I didn't read your > patch, but here's why it can't possibly work, or will set your head on > fire, or will become a time bo

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2013-03-15 12:08, A Braxis wrote: > I for one can't imagine why he wouldn't come here with his problems. After > all, he received such a warm reception this time. ;-D I am also not happy with the snarky responses lately. "I don't understand why you are doing this, but I'll judge you for it." "I

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-15 Thread A Braxis
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013, Holger Parplies wrote: > The OP can decide for himself, and I > wish him the best of luck. I'm confident he won't come here with his problems > if he runs into any. I for one can't imagine why he wouldn't come here with his problems. After all, he received such a warm recepti

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-14 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote on 2013-03-14 23:05:42 -0400 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools]: > [...] > Beats me how this would work without also changing all the things > referencing the location of the pc tree (remember the super sensitive > OP specifically talked about us

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-14 Thread backuppc
Holger Parplies wrote at about 03:46:42 +0100 on Friday, March 15, 2013: > Hi, > > Les Mikesell wrote on 2013-03-14 13:18:53 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC > pools]: > > I'm still somewhat curious about why you dismissed virtual machines, > > which seem to

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-14 Thread backuppc
Stephen Joyce wrote at about 11:02:59 -0400 on Wednesday, March 13, 2013: > I never said anything about "philosophy." Those are your words and > "philosophical" arguments. > > Thank you for your input, but I've already considered your other > suggestions. My bad... you are right... you cited

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-14 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, Les Mikesell wrote on 2013-03-14 13:18:53 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools]: > I'm still somewhat curious about why you dismissed virtual machines, > which seem to me like a more obvious way to divvy up some > partly-shared resources - and would offer a cleaner

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-14 Thread backuppc
Stephen Joyce wrote at about 13:32:30 -0400 on Thursday, March 14, 2013: > Les, > > No need to apologize. I just felt that the arguments made by > backu...@kosowsky.org were both specious and unnecessarily abrasive, > especially since I didn't solicit them. > OMG - grow a pair... if you do

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Stephen Joyce wrote: > > I've been using BackupPC since 2005 and currently have 6 BPC servers backing > up several dozen TBs. While I'm sure there are readers here who pre-date > that, I don't consider myself a novice. I'm still somewhat curious about why you dis

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-14 Thread Stephen Joyce
Les, No need to apologize. I just felt that the arguments made by backu...@kosowsky.org were both specious and unnecessarily abrasive, especially since I didn't solicit them. I've been using BackupPC since 2005 and currently have 6 BPC servers backing up several dozen TBs. While I'm sure there ar

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-13 Thread backuppc
Holger Parplies wrote at about 15:51:19 +0100 on Wednesday, March 13, 2013: > Hi, > > backu...@kosowsky.org wrote on 2013-03-13 10:11:17 -0400 [Re: > [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools]: > > Stephen Joyce wrote at about 07:52:11 -0400 on Wednesday, March 13, 2013: > &g

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Stephen Joyce wrote: > Thank you for your input, but I've already considered your other > suggestions. > > As a reminder to other gentle readers, and to avoid further "philosophical" > tirades about my "foolish" idea, my original question posed was "Has anyone >

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-13 Thread Stephen Joyce
; the existing ones simply need to be made aware of the additional locations on which to operate. ~Stephen On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Holger Parplies wrote: > Hi, > > backu...@kosowsky.org wrote on 2013-03-13 10:11:17 -0400 [Re: > [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools]: > > Steph

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-13 Thread Stephen Joyce
I never said anything about "philosophy." Those are your words and "philosophical" arguments. Thank you for your input, but I've already considered your other suggestions. As a reminder to other gentle readers, and to avoid further "philosophical" tirades about my "foolish" idea, my original ques

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-13 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote on 2013-03-13 10:11:17 -0400 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools]: > Stephen Joyce wrote at about 07:52:11 -0400 on Wednesday, March 13, 2013: > > I'm in a situation where I find myself desiring per-pc pools.[1] > > [...] > > I read wh

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-13 Thread backuppc
Stephen Joyce wrote at about 07:52:11 -0400 on Wednesday, March 13, 2013: > I'm in a situation where I find myself desiring per-pc pools.[1] > > It's been a while since I've dipped my toes into the BackupPC's code, but > I've done a bit of preliminary research into this, and think I've > iden

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-13 Thread Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting
Hi, On 3/13/13 12:52 PM, Stephen Joyce wrote: > I'm in a situation where I find myself desiring per-pc pools.[1] > [...] > The storage to backup this data is also usually funded > by individual faculty accounts (sometimes grants) and as such should be > dedicated to that faculty's PC(s). I would

Re: [BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Stephen Joyce wrote: > I'm in a situation where I find myself desiring per-pc pools.[1] > > It's been a while since I've dipped my toes into the BackupPC's code, but > I've done a bit of preliminary research into this, and think I've identified > the places where c

[BackupPC-users] Per-PC pools

2013-03-13 Thread Stephen Joyce
I'm in a situation where I find myself desiring per-pc pools.[1] It's been a while since I've dipped my toes into the BackupPC's code, but I've done a bit of preliminary research into this, and think I've identified the places where changes would need to be made to allow the pool or cpool to be ov