Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC
On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 12:28 -0500, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 16:35:16 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021: > > On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 09:13 -0600, Robert E. Wooden wrote: > > > On 1/5/2021 9:05 AM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: > > > > I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu > > > > 18.04 - with code from June 2020. > > > > I can send you the packages if you want... > > > > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021: > > > > > Hello all! > > > > > > > > > > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where > there > > > > > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need > for > > > > > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new > > > > > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at > home for lab > > > > > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and > virtual > > > > > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-) > > > > > > I was searching for this the other day (because CentOS 8 goes EOL > > > 12-31-2021) and found there are *.deb packages somewhere on the wiki > > > pages. Might be the packages being discussed here, if so, sorry for > > > redundancy. > > > > Found them on > > https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki/Build-Your-Own-Packages. > > > > So this guy Raoul Bhatia is known on this list and in BackupPC dev circles? > > > > And yes, I've picked up some paranoia too during my time away from BPC, and > > tend use official stable releases. :-) > > > > I started with Raoul's packages for 4.0.x but they weren't being > frequently updated. I downloaded them and examined the package code - > all looked legit. > > So, I used them as the basis for creating my own version with more > updated code. Gotcha', thanks. Will look into rolling my own upgrade eventually it seems. I think Debian may use a newer stable release of BPC. Maybe I can find something there. Till now, I've focused on Ubuntu packages only. -- Kind regards, Sorin Srbu Find my OpenPGP public key here: https://www.srbu.se/nextcloud/index.php/s/FPFgH5ifTiGwdtt signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC
Sorin Srbu wrote at about 16:35:16 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021: > On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 09:13 -0600, Robert E. Wooden wrote: > > On 1/5/2021 9:05 AM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: > > > I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu > > > 18.04 - with code from June 2020. > > > I can send you the packages if you want... > > > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021: > > > > Hello all! > > > > > > > > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where > > > there > > > > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for > > > > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new > > > > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home > > > for lab > > > > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual > > > > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-) > > > > I was searching for this the other day (because CentOS 8 goes EOL > > 12-31-2021) and found there are *.deb packages somewhere on the wiki > > pages. Might be the packages being discussed here, if so, sorry for > > redundancy. > > Found them on > https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki/Build-Your-Own-Packages. > > So this guy Raoul Bhatia is known on this list and in BackupPC dev circles? > > And yes, I've picked up some paranoia too during my time away from BPC, and > tend use official stable releases. :-) > I started with Raoul's packages for 4.0.x but they weren't being frequently updated. I downloaded them and examined the package code - all looked legit. So, I used them as the basis for creating my own version with more updated code. ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.x on Raspberry PI?
Hi there, On Tue, 5 Jan 2021, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: Robert E. Wooden wrote at about 10:02:58 -0600 on Monday, January 4, 2021: > On 1/4/2021 9:55 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:32 AM G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users wrote: > >> I've tried using a 4B and gave up with it - unreliable. ... > > Maybe you just have a bad one or it is overheating in its case ... Nope. We have several. They all do it. It isn't an overheating problem. Some of them aren't even in cases - they're mounted on flat panels (which are in turn mounted vertically for maximum convection cooling) and the rooms in which they run are very cool. Nagios says the temperatures are fine at the crash but they do throttle themselves at high temperatures anyway. There's also a chip register which can be inspected to see if CPU temperature limits have been exceeded. > > ... I've left a 4B powered up for months without crashing. My wife uses one for desktop stuff and it's more or less fine for that use. It can be left running idle for many weeks; the best uptime ever according to Nagios was about 110 days. It crashed (around lunchtime) on New Year's Day after 68 days when (we think) she was thrashing a database. But if for example she connects a powered USB device like a second HDD it's almost bound to crash immediately. So after a few bad experiences there are things we just don't do now, and that's how we can manage to get more than a couple of days uptime. > > Mine doesn't have a load like backuppc ... I'm pretty sure that load is one of the issues. Running as a database server here, the disc is thrashing constantly, 24/365. The backup server is obviously only a heavy load during backups, and then only some backups. Robert E. Wooden wrote at about 10:02:58 -0600 on Monday, January 4, 2021: > I'm going to add here that I have seen a few posts (elsewhere) that some > 4B w/8Gb RAM had crash issues and a 4B 4Gb running the same program runs > ... Wondering what model 4B the OP is using? (2Gb, 4Gb, or 8Gb?) They're all 4GB. They were purchased well before the 8GB was released. Well I was considering buying a 4B 8GB mounted in my router "cabinet" Keep an eye on the cooling. to do the following 3 things: 1. Backuppc server (secondary ... If it's a secondary I'd be a little anxious for you but just about OK with that. I wouldn't now consider a 4B for any backup of my own, as it would be too easy to let things slide and create your own accident. 2. Using NUT, monitor the UPS powering the switches/routers/VOIP devices in my router cabinet As I said I run Nagios/Icinga on 4Bs, I also run Smokeping which does quite a bit of network activity too. But if it crashes, no big deal. 3. Potentially also serve as an occasional mythtv frontend for a basement TV used during exercise Well my preferred forms of exercise precludes anything like that, but I'm sure it would be OK. We watch all our movies on a Pi 2! On the whole pretty reliable although we only run it in the evenings, but it doesn't like mplayer. Omxplayer seems not to be in development any more (this is hearsay from her indoors:) but that's what we use. Would be good to understand if the issues with crashing 4B are due to: 1. One-off faulty device Absolutely not. We've tried really hard to get the things going with multiple different discs, USB/SATA interfaces, power supplies, cables and the 4B devices themselves. The only common theme is the 4B. The same discs, interfaces, PSUs and cables are fine on (again, several) Pi3B+ devices. The 4Bs don't run reliably with just a Webcam. 2. General hardware design issue Yes. It could be more than one thing. Could be that there's more wrong with the USB design than the already well-documented problems. Could be that the power stability is an issue - being an erstwhile electronics designer I've never liked the idea of hanging the PSU on the end of two metres of skinny flex for example, but I've never gone into that and tried running with a shorter cable. If I wanted to do it myself I'd probably do it all myself, but I don't have the time. 3. General OS/software issue We can't rule out supplier- or hardware- specific drivers. 4. "Overload" of some type Don't think so, but the opportunity for power line noise bothers me, I've seen both CPUs and RAM devices fall over for that reason. 5. Weird other interaction among HW/OS/apps etc Assuming the interaction isn't because of something specific to the Pi (my comment under your 3 above) I don't think so. I've had problems with very different setups - file servers, database servers, backup servers, performance monitoring, security cameras (both USB and IP) and desktop. All were the same basic OS, but different application software. All continuous, if not necessarily all heavy, system usage. The uptime on the 3B+ that I'm using to type this message is 285 days: piplus:~$ >>> uptime 14:50:08 up 285
Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC
On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 09:13 -0600, Robert E. Wooden wrote: > On 1/5/2021 9:05 AM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: > > I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu > > 18.04 - with code from June 2020. > > I can send you the packages if you want... > > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021: > > > Hello all! > > > > > > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there > > > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for > > > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new > > > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home > > for lab > > > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual > > > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-) > > I was searching for this the other day (because CentOS 8 goes EOL > 12-31-2021) and found there are *.deb packages somewhere on the wiki > pages. Might be the packages being discussed here, if so, sorry for > redundancy. Found them on https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki/Build-Your-Own-Packages. So this guy Raoul Bhatia is known on this list and in BackupPC dev circles? And yes, I've picked up some paranoia too during my time away from BPC, and tend use official stable releases. :-) -- Kind regards, Sorin Srbu Find my OpenPGP public key here: https://www.srbu.se/nextcloud/index.php/s/FPFgH5ifTiGwdtt signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC
On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 09:13 -0600, Robert E. Wooden wrote: > On 1/5/2021 9:05 AM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: > > I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu > > 18.04 - with code from June 2020. > > I can send you the packages if you want... > > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021: > > > Hello all! > > > > > > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there > > > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for > > > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new > > > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home > > for lab > > > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual > > > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-) > > I was searching for this the other day (because CentOS 8 goes EOL > 12-31-2021) and found there are *.deb packages somewhere on the wiki > pages. Might be the packages being discussed here, if so, sorry for > redundancy. > > But, I could not locate a PPA. Really? Must've missed that. I'll have a look, thanks for the hint! I did find a few PPA's but I can't tell if they're okay to use.I'd consider using a PPA, if the maintainer was known on eg this list, hence the question. -- Kind regards, Sorin Srbu Find my OpenPGP public key here: https://www.srbu.se/nextcloud/index.php/s/FPFgH5ifTiGwdtt signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC
On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 10:05 -0500, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: > I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu > 18.04 - with code from June 2020. > I can send you the packages if you want... > > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021: > > Hello all! > > > > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there > > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for > > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new > > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home for > lab > > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual > > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-) > > > > Also along the way I left CentOS which has earlier been my goto-preference > > and settled with Ubuntu instead. And this is where I need to research some. > > > > I am currently running Ubuntu 20.04 on my vm-servers, and BackupPC seems to > > be a rather old version 3.3. > > > > My initial research showed BPC v4 introduced lots of improvements and > > bugfixes, so I'd like to run that. > > So, I'm looking for PPA's for use with Ubuntu 20.04. > > > > I don't want top build my own for now, at least not until I get up to speed > > again with BPC. > > https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/ > > > > Are there any well-known, if untrusted, PPA's known here on the list, in > use > > for BPC v4? > > > > Hints appreciated and as usual thanks in advance! > > Feels kinda' good to be back with BPC. :-) Hello! That might be an option if I can't find something more "official". I'll get back to you privately in that case.Thanks. -- Kind regards, Sorin Srbu Find my OpenPGP public key here: https://www.srbu.se/nextcloud/index.php/s/FPFgH5ifTiGwdtt signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC
On 1/5/2021 9:05 AM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu 18.04 - with code from June 2020. I can send you the packages if you want... Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021: > Hello all! > > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home for lab > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-) I was searching for this the other day (because CentOS 8 goes EOL 12-31-2021) and found there are *.deb packages somewhere on the wiki pages. Might be the packages being discussed here, if so, sorry for redundancy. But, I could not locate a PPA. -- Bob Wooden ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC
I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu 18.04 - with code from June 2020. I can send you the packages if you want... Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021: > Hello all! > > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home for lab > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-) > > Also along the way I left CentOS which has earlier been my goto-preference > and settled with Ubuntu instead. And this is where I need to research some. > > I am currently running Ubuntu 20.04 on my vm-servers, and BackupPC seems to > be a rather old version 3.3. > > My initial research showed BPC v4 introduced lots of improvements and > bugfixes, so I'd like to run that. > So, I'm looking for PPA's for use with Ubuntu 20.04. > > I don't want top build my own for now, at least not until I get up to speed > again with BPC. > https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/ > > Are there any well-known, if untrusted, PPA's known here on the list, in use > for BPC v4? > > Hints appreciated and as usual thanks in advance! > Feels kinda' good to be back with BPC. :-) > > -- > > Kind regards, > Sorin Srbu > > Find my OpenPGP public key here: > https://www.srbu.se/nextcloud/index.php/s/FPFgH5ifTiGwdtt > > > [DELETED ATTACHMENT signature.asc, application/pgp-signature] > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki > Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
[BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC
Hello all! I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home for lab stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-) Also along the way I left CentOS which has earlier been my goto-preference and settled with Ubuntu instead. And this is where I need to research some. I am currently running Ubuntu 20.04 on my vm-servers, and BackupPC seems to be a rather old version 3.3. My initial research showed BPC v4 introduced lots of improvements and bugfixes, so I'd like to run that. So, I'm looking for PPA's for use with Ubuntu 20.04. I don't want top build my own for now, at least not until I get up to speed again with BPC. https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/ Are there any well-known, if untrusted, PPA's known here on the list, in use for BPC v4? Hints appreciated and as usual thanks in advance! Feels kinda' good to be back with BPC. :-) -- Kind regards, Sorin Srbu Find my OpenPGP public key here: https://www.srbu.se/nextcloud/index.php/s/FPFgH5ifTiGwdtt signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
